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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ah, so now if he hasn't specifically denounced it, that's the same as calling for violence himself. And the goalposts are a'moving.


    He has a history of insulating himself from those he incites to such barbarism. his group, speaks in his name, he has not denounced his group's call for dead cops.

    Do you deny that sharpton is a rabble rouser?

    Do you deny that his million marchers called for dead cops?

    Do you deny that he has not denounced his groups incitement?


    You can cackle on about goalposts all you want. The point remains.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    There was no call for dead cops. There's just some dumb video of some people who weren't associated with the march at all shouting about it. The video might not even be real. But even if it is, those people had absolutely nothing to do with the march in New York City last Saturday, and that march had nothing to do with Al Sharpton.

    If you want someone to blame for violence towards police, you should try the police, and the war of terror they've been waging against the poor (especially the black poor) if thus country for decades.


    Those were al sharpton's "million marchers" group. his group, specifically.


    There is an issue with todays police, specifically escalation of responseses. it's not about "poor" or "black"

    cops killed more whites than blacks in thier custody.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So you have some source you can provide with Sharpton saying "What do we want? Dead Cops?"
    Sharpton doesn't have to be the one that stated those specific words to be guilty. He incited people to anger with his rhetoric that did. He's the guy that runs in and pours the gasoline over racial charges, leaves town while others light the match to ignite the fire. What happened in Ferguson is now playing out in NYC.

    What I find troubling is the company Sharpton keeps. He seems to be very close to the president and is advising the president over race relations. You got to wonder, who's funding Al Sharpton?

    Another thing I find troubling is Eric Holder's actions through Ferguson and this incident in NYC. As he too has instigated racial tensions with his rhetoric and is using his position to run around the country every time a black person is killed by a police officer to see if he can find any civil rights violations or simply imply they were racially motivated to stir the pot. I think Sheriff Clarke described it best.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Was it, or was it not, a group of people that is lead by, or associated with, Sharpton that chanted this?

    If Sharpton's their leader, he has some modicum of responsibility for their chanting, less so if they are just associated with him, and even less so if there is no association between them.

    Sharpton, realizing that every word he says in public is going to be recorded by someone, is not going to come out and support violence, but that doesn't mean that he's not inflaming, agitating or inciting the same in his audiences, local, or via news broadcasts.

    Freedom of speech, OK fine, but you also aren't allowed to yell 'fire' in a crowded movie theater. So I guess the next question needs to be has Sharpton shouted 'fire' to all those who pay attention to him?

    For **** sakes, what kind of a man of God would even stay at a hate fest like this? What ****ing US based excuse for fund raising teaches vengeance? Anyone who has even a working knowledge of the Bible knows that to wish someone dead is a mortal sin, as clearly laid out in this thing called The Ten Commandments, not the movie the book.

    This slime is fostering this anger and hate, but moderating it with words that appear moderate, but spoken in an angry, inciting voice like a bad coach calling on his players to break the rules and rough up their opponents because they have no talent. This prick sees anger and violence as his ticket to more fame, which always translates into fortune.

    Didn't Obama says this guy was his "spiritual leader"? If so, we now know why we have the most self centric administration in history
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    How about the video in the OP?
    The video in the OP doesn't have him saying that. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you just got fooled by the horrible edit job and not bothering to actually research things instead of just taking the OP's word, so I'll explalin

    The first video is from a protest in New York. A protest that Sharpton was not at and had no involvement with.

    The second video is a fox and friends report showing part of his speech at an entirely seperate protest in an entirely different location (Wsahington DC) at an entirely different time of the day...that fox for some reason cuts away from, intersplices with footage from the new york protests (that again had NO involvement from Sharpton), and then returns to Sharpton's speech. Here is what he said in that clip:

    "We're not saying all police are bad. We're not even saying most are bad. We're not anti police. But we're anti brutality. And the federal government must have a threshold to protect that. Second, the justice department must have a division funded to deal with this. Thirdly, we must have the power of special prosectuors, not the local prosectors".

    So again, I ask you...do you have any actual link or evidence of Sharpton saying, or leading a chant, calling for dead cops?

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Those were al sharpton's "million marchers" group. his group, specifically.


    There is an issue with todays police, specifically escalation of responseses. it's not about "poor" or "black"

    cops killed more whites than blacks in thier custody.
    I was at that march. I spoke with the organizers. No one was coordinating anything with Al Sharpton nor was anyone working with him. And no one who was part of the march was shouting for dead cops.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Was it, or was it not, a group of people that is lead by, or associated with, Sharpton that chanted this?
    It was not Sharpton.

    It was not a group led by Sharpton.

    To my understanding, it was not a group "associatd" with Sharpton either...unless you're just saying all black people or black groups are associated with Sharpton.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers? [W

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Was it, or was it not, a group of people that is lead by, or associated with, Sharpton that chanted this?

    If Sharpton's their leader, he has some modicum of responsibility for their chanting, less so if they are just associated with him, and even less so if there is no association between them.

    Sharpton, realizing that every word he says in public is going to be recorded by someone, is not going to come out and support violence, but that doesn't mean that he's not inflaming, agitating or inciting the same in his audiences, local, or via news broadcasts.

    Freedom of speech, OK fine, but you also aren't allowed to yell 'fire' in a crowded movie theater. So I guess the next question needs to be has Sharpton shouted 'fire' to all those who pay attention to him?


    Why is it that "progressives" encourage the censorship in the mainstream media, but cry, falsely, "second amendment" at the first sign one of their own may be a monster?

    This guy is, no doubt. But no, you cannot yell "fire" in a crowded theatre, you cannot incite others to violence [cleverly done here] and you cannot, in sane countries, single out an "identifiable group" for any form of disrepute. Here, you may not get jail for robbery, but you will for what this prick is doing.

    There is no "right" in anything he's doing, in fact the opposite made even more disgusting because he clearly doesn't even believe his own rhetoric, HE isn't going to march with the people he's stirred to action.

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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I was at that march. I spoke with the organizers. No one was coordinating anything with Al Sharpton nor was anyone working with him. And no one who was part of the march was shouting for dead cops.


    Which march? time. place, route.

    I'm in Chelsea bro. I might pick up if you are telling the truth or not.
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    Re: Did Al Sharpton's rhetoric contribute to the deaths of 2 NYPD Police officers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    al sharpton's "million marchers" group.



    link to him denouncing what his marchers said.
    Sharpton's protest was in DC. These guys are in New York. What evidence what so ever do you have that these peoples march has anything to do or is tied in any way with Al Sharpton.

    Give me a break Reverend. With how quickly you (rightfully) condemn people who go off on the Tea Party as a whole, or any politician associated with the Tea Party, due to actions by individual elements it's laughable that you are up here trying to condemn Sharpton for what people at a rally he isn't even a part of are saying and suggesting he's some how needs to actively come out and "denounce" what some crazies within the protesters have said.

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