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Thread: Is it fair to say the mayor where the 2 cops were killed was partly responsible?

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    Re: Is it fair to say the mayor where the 2 cops were killed was partly responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I'd say "broken windows" policing is FAR more responsible for the ever-growing divide between poor minority communities and urban police departments than any "rhetoric" from Sharpton, de Blasio or Obama.

    Does " broken window " Policing create the disproportionate amount of crime and violence that exist in poor minority communities ?

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    Re: Is it fair to say the mayor where the 2 cops were killed was partly responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Does " broken window " Policing create the disproportionate amount of crime and violence that exist in poor minority communities ?
    Read what I posted.
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    Re: Is it fair to say the mayor where the 2 cops were killed was partly responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Read what I posted.
    I did.

    You're just perpetuating the same false narrative that led to the shooting deaths of these Officers.

    No, never address the issues that perpetuate crime and poverty, just blame the Police for doing their job.

    Never question the responsibility of those who occupy these high crime areas.

    Its all the Police Officers fault for being there and daring to uphold the law.

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    Re: Is it fair to say the mayor where the 2 cops were killed was partly responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    I did.

    You're just perpetuating the same false narrative that led to the shooting deaths of these Officers.

    No, never address the issues that perpetuate crime and poverty, just blame the Police for doing their job.

    Never question the responsibility of those who occupy these high crime areas.

    Its all the Police Officers fault for being there and daring to uphold the law.
    I wasn't blaming the police for doing their job. All I said was Broken Windows policing is a breeding ground for mistrust. Everything else in your post is a figment of your imagination that I never said.
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    Re: Is it fair to say the mayor where the 2 cops were killed was partly responsible?

    Nobody gets the blame but that asshole that did the shooting. Don't blame the mayor. Ferguson or Sharpton. Don't blame the gun manufacturer's or the NRA.

    Jeezus.......

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    Re: Is it fair to say the mayor where the 2 cops were killed was partly responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    And it's really funny that you think this guy in Baltimore all of a sudden, out of the blue, decided that Garner was murdered by cops and needed to be avenged.
    I think it's really funny that you keep strawmanning and changing the goal posts.

    Your initial post suggested "there was no plausible explanation why he chose not to kill baltimore cops" but instead went to NYC to kill cops. I was simply putting forward another "plausible explanation", not stating definitively what I personally believed.

    Your hypothetical question that I responded to was not asking why he killed cops in general, it asked why he chose to kill in New York instead of Baltimore.

    It's entirely plausible that he chose to kill in New York instead of Baltimore because Garner was killed in New York.

    Trying to talk about how he got the idea to kill cops, IN GENERAL, is moving the goal posts from the original comment I was responding to.

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    Re: Is it fair to say the mayor where the 2 cops were killed was partly responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    The head of the police union is disgustingly exploiting a tragedy. "Blood on his hands" is pure hate-filled rhetoric designed only to fuel the debate and play martyr.
    The only martyrs in this story are the 2 dead policemen.

    The head of the police union has every right to be angry, and like the garbage who chanted that they wanted dead cops, also has the right to say what's on his mind. And he is speaking for thousands of cops in NYC and other places who feel exactly as he does.
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    Re: Is it fair to say the mayor where the 2 cops were killed was partly responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I think it's really funny that you keep strawmanning and changing the goal posts.

    Your initial post suggested "there was no plausible explanation why he chose not to kill baltimore cops" but instead went to NYC to kill cops. I was simply putting forward another "plausible explanation", not stating definitively what I personally believed.

    Your hypothetical question that I responded to was not asking why he killed cops in general, it asked why he chose to kill in New York instead of Baltimore.

    It's entirely plausible that he chose to kill in New York instead of Baltimore because Garner was killed in New York.

    Trying to talk about how he got the idea to kill cops, IN GENERAL, is moving the goal posts from the original comment I was responding to.
    It's also entirely possible he chose to kill in New York instead of Baltimore because he had to get the hell out of Baltimore as fast as possible.
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    Re: Is it fair to say the mayor where the 2 cops were killed was partly responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    It's also entirely possible he chose to kill in New York instead of Baltimore because he had to get the hell out of Baltimore as fast as possible.
    If getting away were the motive then he wouldn't have killed anywhere after fleeing Baltimore. He was running to something, not from something.
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    Re: Is it fair to say the mayor where the 2 cops were killed was partly responsible?

    There is a difference between not being supportive and being "partly" responsible for a heinous act against police officers. The mayor is guilty of the former, not the latter.

    That being said, aside from this tragedy, I have zero sympathy with how the New York police union has dealt with much of the controversy. Of course, I tend to feel that way whenever I get the faint whiff of a union rejecting any sense of reason for tribalism. New York's police union is not the only police union with the stench of unionism over God and country in the past several months.
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