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  • Yes, people should know the Embargos were by Democrat Prez. Kennedy

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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    What the heck is all this puppy love for Cuba? Who cares? Continue the embargo until they have something we need. Otherwise, let em sit and stew.
    For what purpose? Just for funsies?
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    For what purpose? Just for funsies?
    Can you give any benefit to Americans or the USA from this? Any?


    OH, we have heard the response from the next generation Castro over Obama's unilateral mega billion dollar favor to the Castros.

    A wave of insults and condemnations of the United States.

    So Americans in Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands were trashed, created a doorway to another foreign drug cartel, declared the USA is fine with missiles to N. Korea and harboring terrorists and American cop killers, and financially saved an oppressive and adversarial military dictatorship ...

    ... in exchange for insults.

    Great Americans-last foreign policy action by Emperor and American apologist Obama. With on elections ahead that matter to him, he can now fully express his condemnations of the USA worldwide and personal shame over being an American for which he will punish all Americans and throw piles of money at our enemies.

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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Can you give any benefit to Americans or the USA from this? Any?


    OH, we have heard the response from the next generation Castro over Obama's unilateral mega billion dollar favor to the Castros.

    A wave of insults and condemnations of the United States.

    So Americans in Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands were trashed, created a doorway to another foreign drug cartel, declared the USA is fine with missiles to N. Korea and harboring terrorists and American cop killers, and financially saved an oppressive and adversarial military dictatorship ...

    ... in exchange for insults.

    Great Americans-last foreign policy action by Emperor and American apologist Obama. With on elections ahead that matter to him, he can now fully express his condemnations of the USA worldwide and personal shame over being an American for which he will punish all Americans and throw piles of money at our enemies.
    This is absolute gibberish.
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A majority of Americans and members of this forum believe the embargo against Cuba was always wrong and was a stupid, cruel and harmful policy.

    Yet no one is identifying who did this terrible thing to Cubans and such great stupid evil by the United States.
    Should Democratic President John F Kennedy be retroactively publicly condemned
    for imposing the embargos (there were many embargo laws he put into effect) against Cuba? Should young Americans particularly know WHO did this to Castro and Cubans to understand political history and partisan history accurately?


    The man has been dead and buried for quite a while.

    I doubt that condemning him will hurt his feelings.

    Don't you have better things to waste time on?

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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    How the hell is Cuba our enemy any more? Thats is like saying that the gopher living in the neighbors backyard is my enemy. When the Cold War ended, Cuba became entirely insignificant to us as a threat. Thus there is no reason at all to continue the embargo and not have an embassy there. If we are not going to have an embassy in Cuba then we should pull out of China, Vietnam, and Venezuela as well. For crying out loud, we have an embassy in Zimbabwe. Would you rather live in Cuba or in Zimbabwe with the rampant corruption and human rights abuses there?
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    What the heck is all this puppy love for Cuba? Who cares? Continue the embargo until they have something we need. Otherwise, let em sit and stew.
    Is that the way you want this country run? We just embargo people who don't agree with us for decades and decades until they "have something we need" to buy their freedom back?

    The question you should be asking, wtf is is all this extreme hatred for Cuba and Cubans? Of all the evil in the world you pick them to single out and mess with? Jesus.
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Is that the way you want this country run? We just embargo people who don't agree with us for decades and decades until they "have something we need" to buy their freedom back?

    The question you should be asking, wtf is is all this extreme hatred for Cuba and Cubans? Of all the evil in the world you pick them to single out and mess with? Jesus.
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    What was cruel about it ?

    Cuba couldn't trade with the US , but could trade with other Nations .

    How was this " cruel ??

    Cuba's problems aren't related to the embargo. They have to do with the fact that that island Nation is run by Communist thug dictators.
    They sure love American iron down there...

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    Maybe the USA want's to rent or lease some land for military bases for jungle training, or for some missile bases.

    Last edited by AJiveMan; 12-22-14 at 06:33 AM.

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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A majority of Americans and members of this forum believe the embargo against Cuba was always wrong and was a stupid, cruel and harmful policy.

    Yet no one is identifying who did this terrible thing to Cubans and such great stupid evil by the United States. Should Democratic President John F Kennedy be retroactively publicly condemned for imposing the embargos (there were many embargo laws he put into effect) against Cuba? Should young Americans particularly know WHO did this to Castro and Cubans to understand political history and partisan history accurately?
    At the time, it was possibly smart policy. We were in the middle of the Cold War, the USSR had just tried to make Cuba a base for nuclear ICMBs pointed at American cities right off our coast. At the time it could be argued it was a wise decision short of war intended to force change in Cuba by use of a temporary embargo.

    Problem is it didn't work. I think this is due to the fact nobody but America joined in. If we'd gotten the rest of the world on board maybe things would have played out differently but Europe, Canada and the rest of the Americas didn't participate.

    Personally, I don't like embargoes because they punish the wrong people, the innocent often powerless citizens of the targeted country. It was reported shortages in toilet paper and feminine hygiene products are common in Cuba because of the US embargo. Even the Cuban immigrant community who supported the embargo were its main violators in efforts to ease the effects of their own loved ones back in Cuba. I'm not sure if this is still the case but in the 1990s it was reported Cuba's number one industry was Cubans in America wiring money to the communist county.

    Fast forward 50 years lifting the embargo gradually is probably the right thing to do.
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A majority of Americans and members of this forum believe the embargo against Cuba was always wrong and was a stupid, cruel and harmful policy.

    Yet no one is identifying who did this terrible thing to Cubans and such great stupid evil by the United States. Should Democratic President John F Kennedy be retroactively publicly condemned for imposing the embargos (there were many embargo laws he put into effect) against Cuba? Should young Americans particularly know WHO did this to Castro and Cubans to understand political history and partisan history accurately?
    Embargoing Cuba made sense in the context of the Cold War. But, the current leadership of Russia and China are far worse than the Castros, and we're developing our economic associations with them as hard as we can as fast as we can.

    The entire reason why we've even kept up this policy was because both parties were attempting to appease an important demographic (Cuban exiles) in a swing state; it didn't make any kind of logical sense in light of the rest of our Cold War policy.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 12-22-14 at 04:34 PM.
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