View Poll Results: Should President Kennedy be condemned for the embargos against Cuba

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  • Yes, people should know the Embargos were by Democrat Prez. Kennedy

    8 4.40%
  • No, this could damage Democrat JFK as heroic and perfect

    13 7.14%
  • No, no politician should ever be held to public scrutiny

    9 4.95%
  • No, Tea Party Republicans did it

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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I heard a Republican named Rand Paul say the same thing as he slapped down Marco Rubio as an isolationist defending unsuccessful embargoes.
    Rand Paul is about as significant as Obama.

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    With this new messaging war by the GOP on JFK, their war on the Pope for being an intermediary can't be far behind .
    Wrong again. Nothing new here though. The war on Kennedy is from a Democrat, President Obama.

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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    What about the embargo on Russia? Russia hasn't been hostile to the US, have they?

    Isn't that hurting innocent Russians? Their economy is in the tank.

    Doesn't President Obama have any, *wink, wink,* flexibility left he spoke about to the Russian president?
    Our sanctions on Russia have only been effective because we had no sanctions when we first applied them. If we had embargoed Russia for 60 years, sanctioning them would have zero effect and thus wouldn't influence their behavior.

    I don't think Kennedy ever intended the embargo of Cuba to last until the end of time. It was supposed to be a temporary response to a temporary problem. Is Russia still trying to sneak nukes into Cuba?

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    When did it become wrong?
    Probably when the USSR stopped trying to put nukes into Cuba, you know, 40+ years ago. Hilarious that none of the original reasons we embargoed Cuba still exist, but you think it should just continue on regardless.
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A majority of Americans and members of this forum believe the embargo against Cuba was always wrong and was a stupid, cruel and harmful policy.

    Yet no one is identifying who did this terrible thing to Cubans and such great stupid evil by the United States. Should Democratic President John F Kennedy be retroactively publicly condemned for imposing the embargos (there were many embargo laws he put into effect) against Cuba? Should young Americans particularly know WHO did this to Castro and Cubans to understand political history and partisan history accurately?
    I have to question your opening statement.

    I've seen only one poll in DP lately on the topic and I don't think the results are quite the way you say they are. Do you have any polling information about the majority of Americans?


    In any case, I decline to answer your poll because every choice...whether it begins with a yes or a no...has some additional qualifier that I don't adhere to. Why didn't you just have three choices...yes, no, no opinion? You would have still gotten more dumbass reasons in the posts that would follow than the few you came up with.
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A majority of Americans and members of this forum believe the embargo against Cuba was always wrong and was a stupid, cruel and harmful policy.

    Yet no one is identifying who did this terrible thing to Cubans and such great stupid evil by the United States. Should Democratic President John F Kennedy be retroactively publicly condemned for imposing the embargos (there were many embargo laws he put into effect) against Cuba? Should young Americans particularly know WHO did this to Castro and Cubans to understand political history and partisan history accurately?
    How are your poll choices an accurate representation of anything?

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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I have to question your opening statement.

    I've seen only one poll in DP lately on the topic and I don't think the results are quite the way you say they are. Do you have any polling information about the majority of Americans?


    In any case, I decline to answer your poll because every choice...whether it begins with a yes or a no...has some additional qualifier that I don't adhere to. Why didn't you just have three choices...yes, no, no opinion? You would have still gotten more dumbass reasons in the posts that would follow than the few you came up with.
    Cuba | Gallup Historical Trends

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    Most Cuban-Americans Oppose Embargo, Poll Finds : The Two-Way : NPR

    A new poll released on Tuesday shows a big shift in opinion by the Cuban-American community in South Florida: A majority (52 percent) of Cuban-Americans said the U.S. should end its embargo of Cuba.

    "We are witnessing a clear demographic shift with younger and more recently arrived Cubans favoring a change in policy toward the island," said Professor Guillermo J. Grenier, one of the co-principal investigators of the Florida International University Cuba Poll, in a statement.

    Just how significant is the swing? Back in 2011, 44 percent opposed the U.S. embargo of Cuba. In 1991, 87 percent of Cuban-Americans supported the embargo.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...rade-with-cuba

    And opposition to diplomatic relations with Cuba–that was downright fringe. Only 32 percent of Cuban-Americans still opposed diplomacy, and only 12 percent of the population younger than 30.

    The collapse of support for an embargo made the positions of Cuban-Americans in Congress even more important. For the next two years, at least, any change to the laws mentioned by Ros-Lehtinen will have to be approved by a Republican Congress. Whatever they think, Cuban-Americans are still represented by Republicans (and New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez, a Democrat) who oppose Obama's move.
    A majority of Americans are now opposed to embargoes on Cuba.
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    What the heck is all this puppy love for Cuba? Who cares? Continue the embargo until they have something we need. Otherwise, let em sit and stew.

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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Do I need to remind you what I asked to be substantiate?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A majority of Americans and members of this forum believe the embargo against Cuba was always wrong and was a stupid, cruel and harmful policy.
    I don't think your information backs up that statement at all.
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    What the heck is all this puppy love for Cuba? Who cares? Continue the embargo until they have something we need. Otherwise, let em sit and stew.
    There is no puppy love for Cuba, but the embargo for the last 54 years hasn't helped the Cuban people at all. So its important to try something different. There is nothing, I mean nothing wrong with setting up diplomatic relations.


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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Dumb poll.

    President Kennedy deserves credit for instituting a fairly legitimate policy which may (or may not) have ended its usefulness after the early 1990s.
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