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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    I heard a Republican named Rand Paul say the same thing as he slapped down Marco Rubio as an isolationist defending unsuccessful embargoes.

    With this new messaging war by the GOP on JFK, their war on the Pope for being an intermediary can't be far behind .

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    I haven't heard any Republican politician make a disparaging remark about
    Kennedy's policy on Cuba but I did hear one Democrat say it has "failed" to advance our interests.
    And Rubio and Jeb Bush join a long list of GOPs saying the embargo didn't work, but that we shouldn't change our policy.
    Rand Paul wins again in the GOP .
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    If a GOP were President and I were asking your question, I'd be accused by your lean of coddling the Russian Bear.
    Not to mention being a commie lover and appeaser, as we've seen since the Obama gambit on Cuba .

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    What about the embargo on Russia? Russia hasn't been hostile to the US, have they?

    Isn't that hurting innocent Russians? Their economy is in the tank.

    Doesn't President Obama have any, *wink, wink,* flexibility left he spoke about to the Russian president?
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A majority of Americans and members of this forum believe the embargo against Cuba was always wrong and was a stupid, cruel and harmful policy.

    Yet no one is identifying who did this terrible thing to Cubans and such great stupid evil by the United States. Should Democratic President John F Kennedy be retroactively publicly condemned for imposing the embargos (there were many embargo laws he put into effect) against Cuba? Should young Americans particularly know WHO did this to Castro and Cubans to understand political history and partisan history accurately?
    Really stupid poll.
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    what a silly bunch of poll choices

    what about NO-because its meaningless?



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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Really stupid poll.
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    This is all way before me.
    I would imagine most people on DP are a whole lot younger than I. But sometimes a person who lived through things can bring a perspective on things that just reading about them in a history book can't. I learned that from my Grandpa talking about WWI and my dad WWII.
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Yes Kennedy ought to be condemned for the embargos against Cuba, because they didnt go far enough in stopping the Cuban revolution. And when the USSR fell we should have invaded Cuba and liberated the people. But that didnt happen so blaming Kennedy now is pointless. Now really its up to Cuba to do the right things. But thats highly doubtful.

    And it probable that dropping the embargo will come back to bite us in the ass. At first there will be head nodding from latin America but that will soon turn to victory speeches. It will embolden the extreme left in Latin America potentially making things very bad in the future.

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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    But there were other reasons. Cuba fueled revolutions with weapons and support. We fought Cubans over an island they took over - no one remembers.

    The Cuban government is a drug cartel. A safe haven for terrorists and murderers to this day.

    As recent as last year they were doing missile deals with N. Korea - a whole ship load. Let's throw a pile of money to finance that some more?

    The Cuban government never became nice nor anything but anti American in pro-active ways.

    Dangers to the USA are obvious. Harms to AMERICANS of Puerto Rico and the USA Virgin Islands obvious. Money laundering via Cuba? A certainty. Easier access to the Cuban drug cartel? Certainly.

    Maybe YOU can name ANY significant benefit for the USA or AMERICANS out of this? We don't owe Cuba or Cubans anything.
    Roger, Grenada was the island no one remembers. I agree with everything you said. There were numerous valid reasons for the embargo. There was also Castro sending Cuban troops to Africa and Nicaragua and El Savador. Castro was the USSR's lap dog. I also think the embargo because it meant the USSR had to prop up the Cuban Government with millions of Rubles, billions probably help expedite the breakup of the USSR. But today, the cold war is over. It doesn't bother me that we will have diplomatic relations with Cuba. If congress agrees to end the embargo that won't bother me either. If they don't and keep it in place, I'm fine with that also.

    I suppose in plain English is that I think the Embargo was proper and served a much need function. Is it needed today, I really don't know.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A majority of Americans and members of this forum believe the embargo against Cuba was always wrong and was a stupid, cruel and harmful policy.

    Yet no one is identifying who did this terrible thing to Cubans and such great stupid evil by the United States. Should Democratic President John F Kennedy be retroactively publicly condemned for imposing the embargos (there were many embargo laws he put into effect) against Cuba? Should young Americans particularly know WHO did this to Castro and Cubans to understand political history and partisan history accurately?

    What was cruel about it ?

    Cuba couldn't trade with the US , but could trade with other Nations .

    How was this " cruel ??

    Cuba's problems aren't related to the embargo. They have to do with the fact that that island Nation is run by Communist thug dictators.

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    Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo agai...

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A majority of Americans and members of this forum believe the embargo against Cuba was always wrong and was a stupid, cruel and harmful policy.

    Yet no one is identifying who did this terrible thing to Cubans and such great stupid evil by the United States. Should Democratic President John F Kennedy be retroactively publicly condemned for imposing the embargos (there were many embargo laws he put into effect) against Cuba? Should young Americans particularly know WHO did this to Castro and Cubans to understand political history and partisan history accurately?
    Unless you have valid statistics to prove your assertions about Americans, they are fabricated lies.

    Where are these numbers??
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