View Poll Results: Should President Kennedy be condemned for the embargos against Cuba

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  • Yes, people should know the Embargos were by Democrat Prez. Kennedy

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  • No, this could damage Democrat JFK as heroic and perfect

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Thread: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against Cuba

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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    The CIA was created by Democrat Harry Truman.

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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    You're kidding, right? Now I agree one should understand the history of it. If one understand what was happening in 1962 and in 1963 when the embargo was implemented, there was good reason.
    If Cuba had a right to Russian made nuclear tipped missiles, certainly ISIS should be able to get RPGs. I mean really.

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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That's interesting. Any Democrats agree with that? After Kennedy was LBJ and Vietnam. Before Kennedy was Truman nuking Japan and the Korean War - an embargo against China (lifted by Republican Nixon). Before Truman was FDR and WWII. WWI was Wilson. All Democrats. The embargo against Iran was Carter, another Democrat.

    Do current Democrats really see all Democrat Presidents prior to Bill Clinton as evil Republicans in wolf's clothing?
    You know what is funny about all of that. Nixon although a cold warrior and ardent anti-communist governed as a liberal and was probably the liberalest president since FDR to the present. I think one must understand until Eisenhower the Republican Party was the isolationist party. The Democrats the war hawks. IKE kept us out of war and brought an armistice to Korea.

    Vietnam changed the Democratic Party into what was termed the dove party for quite awhile. They ran Humphrey who was anti-Vietnam and then followed him up with McGovern who said the day after he was inaugurated he would bring all the troops home from Vietnam. Carter was no war hawk, neither was Clinton. But Clinton was closer to the old Democrats like FDR, Truman, JFK and LBJ.
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    If Cuba had a right to Russian made nuclear tipped missiles, certainly ISIS should be able to get RPGs. I mean really.
    Have you ever heard of the Monroe Doctrine?????


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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    What about the embargo on Russia? Russia hasn't been hostile to the US, have they?

    Isn't that hurting innocent Russians? Their economy is in the tank.

    Doesn't President Obama have any, *wink, wink,* flexibility left he spoke about to the Russian president?
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Have you ever heard of the Monroe Doctrine?????
    Yes I have. It just became ancient history, didn't it?

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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Today's democrats can't identify with Kennedy anyway. You know, the whole "ask not what your country can do for you" thing. Dems most likely look at Kennedy as a Republican in wolf's clothing.

    Kennedy would roll over in his grave if he knew what was happening with the Democrat party in the 21st century.
    Certainly not since McGovern ran. Anyway, no Kennedy should not be condemned. He wasn't perfect, but a lot better than who we have now.
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    What about the embargo on Russia? Russia hasn't been hostile to the US, have they?

    Isn't that hurting innocent Russians? Their economy is in the tank.

    Doesn't President Obama have any, *wink, wink,* flexibility left he spoke about to the Russian president?
    There are few Russians trying to get into the USA where they can vote Democrat and Russians in the USA are not a significant voting bloc. Money laundering thru Russia would be risky and difficult, and drug trafficking in and drug money out of Russia wouldn't work well either.

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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    If Cuba had a right to Russian made nuclear tipped missiles, certainly ISIS should be able to get RPGs. I mean really.
    Am I missing something here? What does ISIS and RPG's have to do with condemning JFK for the embargo? I was in high school during the Cuban Missile Crisis and those 20 or so days were mighty serious days. It was a gambit Khrushchev thought he could win. We are dog gone lucky we had JFK and the USSR had Khrushchev, a couple of level headed leaders. Khrushchev got what he wanted although that portion of the deal wasn't made public until long after the crisis was over. We also agreed that we would not ever invade Cuba as part of that deal.
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    Re: Should President John Kennedy be retroactively condemned for the embargo against

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The CIA was created by Democrat Harry Truman.
    Actually Truman reorganized the OSS from WWII into the CIA. Renamed along with giving the organization more duties would be a better word than created. The OSS already existed which was an FDR creation which became the CIG after WWII which in turn became the CIA.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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