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    Re: Does racism still exist in USA ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Talking about divercity is some degree of racism.
    Sig-worthy material. Talking about race or diversity is racism. haha


    Talking about race is racisly motivated behavior.
    Actually, it's not.

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    Re: Does racism still exist in USA ?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Where on this planet does racism not exist?

    Fill us in.
    I imagin the most likely places would be those of spiritual maturity like a monistary.

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    Re: Does racism still exist in USA ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I imagin the most likely places would be those of spiritual maturity like a monistary.
    Like a mosque?

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    Re: Does racism still exist in USA ?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Always will?
    I think there will be racism amongst humans until the aliens come down from the sky and we can be racist towards them.

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    Re: Does racism still exist in USA ?

    To review, Jerry claims: Some abstract objects are not real. Gravitational force is an abstract object and is real because it exists outside collective thought.

    Reality: Abstract objects are real. Gravitational force is not an abstract object; it, of course, is real.


    Jerry claims: The source of racism is thinking about race. Racism can be solved by not thinking about race. Talking about race is a racially motivated act (thus racist) and talking about diversity is racist.

    Reality: The source of racism is ignorance. Ignorance cannot be solved by not thinking about it. Talking about race is not a racially motivated act and talking about diversity is not racist. One can think about race and talk about race and diversity, and not be a racist.


    Jerry claims: Hollywood actors are a good source of sociological wisdom.

    Reality: wtf

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    Re: Does racism still exist in USA ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Is it your contention that racism and racial bigotry are the same thing? If not, what are the differences.
    Racism:
    1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
    2: racial prejudice or discrimination
    Bigotry:
    1: the state of mind of a bigot
    2: acts or beliefs characteristic of a bigot
    Both from Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Online

    Put them together and its about a person (note that it uses the singular form in bigotry definition, not plural) that believes or has the state of mind that race is the primary detriment of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

    Also there are only two types of laws that is about race in the USA.

    First one is Affirmative Action. In this one minorities are favored over the majority. However it includes ALL minorities and not just race. But race is a big part of it.

    The other type of laws that is about race is Hate Crimes. Where people are charged with two crimes for committing one crime. It was supposed to be designed to prevent crimes based on race and other hateful actions. (but for this discussion we'll focus on the race part) In reality it perpetuates racism for the simple fact that it incenses people every time they see an instance (perceived or real) of a hate crime.

    Every other law out there in todays day and age has nothing to do with racism in any degree of rational thought. Yet there are many who fully believe that certain laws were made specifically to target X race. Reality of it is that they don't target any race at all. This is not to say that racist cops won't target a specific race because they do and are doing so. That is not the fault of the system however. It is a fault with in individual human beings. This is why there is no such thing as "institutionalized racism" in the way that you try and explain it eco. The only institutionalized racism is AA and hate crime legislation. But even that is not really racism. Bad laws yes. But not really racism as they were meant to correct a problem but have failed miserably and only made things worse.

    Now I know that you will continue to ignore the very real fact that only individuals can be racist and try to claim the whole is racist in the guise of institutionalism. But that is nothing more than a generality that is also based on willful ignorance. Willful ignorance because you don't want to admit that minorities have a very large say in how things go. You don't want to admit it because then that would bring in the very real fact that people are individually responsible for their actions. That they can't just blame everything that happens on something or someone other than themselves.

    Racism exists and it is very real. Don't water it down by attempting to place the blame on everyone "not you". Place the blame on the individuals that perpetuate such garbage. There's a very real reason that people such as Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton and Rush Limbaugh are as "popular" as they are. I wonder if you know the answer to the why of that? I'll bet that you'll get the answer wrong though. Assuming that you'll even attempt to answer the question and not just try and side step it or spin it.
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    Re: Does racism still exist in USA ?

    The other type of laws that is about race is Hate Crimes. Where people are charged with two crimes for committing one crime. It was supposed to be designed to prevent crimes based on race and other hateful actions. (but for this discussion we'll focus on the race part) In reality it perpetuates racism for the simple fact that it incenses people every time they see an instance (perceived or real) of a hate crime.
    Gross ignorance.

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    Re: Does racism still exist in USA ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Gross ignorance.
    And yet you can't come up with a single rebuttal that disproves anything that I said in that whole post of mine.
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    Re: Does racism still exist in USA ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And yet you can't come up with a single rebuttal that disproves anything that I said in that whole post of mine.
    I think that paragraph of gross ignorance is enough to discredit your entire BS racist rant.

    Hate crime legislation fights race, gender and other group-based terrorism. A random property or anger crime is not the same thing as randomly targeting a member of a group in order to instill fear in that group. There are no "protected groups" as hetero white males have been victims of hate crimes.

    When you have a clue what hate crime legislation is and means, you'll see how backwards that paragraph is. You want to protect terrorists by treating them as common criminals. Specifically, you want to protect racist terrorists from being prosecuted for their intentions.
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    Re: Does racism still exist in USA ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I think that paragraph of gross ignorance is enough to discredit your entire BS rant.

    Hate crime legislation fights race, gender and other group-based terrorism. A random property or anger crime is not the same thing as randomly targeting a member of a group in order to instill fear in that group. There are no "protected groups" as hetero white males have been victims of hate crimes.

    When you have a clue what hate crime legislation is and means, you'll see how backwards that paragraph is. You want to protect terrorists by treating them as common criminals. Specifically, you want to protect racist terrorists from being prosecuted for their intentions.
    1st Fail: Calling racists "terrorists" just throws more water into your arguments.

    2nd fail: Re-read what I said in that part. Because no where in that quote did I say "groups".

    Here it is again so that you don't have to scroll up.

    The other type of laws that is about race is Hate Crimes. Where people are charged with two crimes for committing one crime. It was supposed to be designed to prevent crimes based on race and other hateful actions. (but for this discussion we'll focus on the race part) In reality it perpetuates racism for the simple fact that it incenses people every time they see an instance (perceived or real) of a hate crime.
    Considering you've just proven that you don't even know what was said I think that you have shown that you don't care what is actually said. You will continue to ignore it in order to promote the idea of "institutionalized racism". And that is all that it is. An idea. Not based in reality.
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