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    Re: Lift sanctions and embargo on North Korea?

    Where's the, "Oh hell No!" option?

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    Re: Lift sanctions and embargo on North Korea?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Comparing Cuba to North Korea is laughably idiotic, so actually right on par with what I'd expect from you.

    Kim Jong-un has no interest in trading with the west, if he did, I would say we should. Do you think it would be easier or harder to reach out to the North Korean people if they had more access to the international community and western goods? When you wall off a country from the international community the only voice they can hear is that of their tyrant.

    We've embargoed North Korea for 60+ years now. Are we any closer to getting through to the people? Why help build up the wall that keeps North Koreans trapped?
    Exactly.

    Interesting question though.

    Look at - to my knowledge - the three longest U.S. embargoes of foreign countries...Iran, Cuba and North Korea.

    All these embargoes did was cause huge suffering for their people, ensure the lousy leaders stayed in power (as they blamed all that was bad on the Americans) and resulted in zero regime changes.

    I believe that Kim what's-his-guts would HATE for the embargo to be lifted. If it were, he could no longer blame his countries miserable economy on America. He would be the one taking the blame and the people would (imo) quickly rise up and overthrow him.

    If America truly wants to help the North Korean people, they will end this ridiculous embargo (though it was FAR less ridiculous then the Cuban one) and force that fat f*ck out of power.

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    Re: Lift sanctions and embargo on North Korea?

    unfortunately there was no Hell NO option because that is the one I would have gone for.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Lift sanctions and embargo on North Korea?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Where's the, "Oh hell No!" option?
    My thoughts exactly, posted my response before I saw yours or I would have just quoted and added "ditto"
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Lift sanctions and embargo on North Korea?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Exactly.

    Interesting question though.

    Look at - to my knowledge - the three longest U.S. embargoes of foreign countries...Iran, Cuba and North Korea.

    All these embargoes did was cause huge suffering for their people, ensure the lousy leaders stayed in power (as they blamed all that was bad on the Americans) and resulted in zero regime changes.

    I believe that Kim what's-his-guts would HATE for the embargo to be lifted. If it were, he could no longer blame his countries miserable economy on America. He would be the one taking the blame and the people would (imo) quickly rise up and overthrow him.

    If America truly wants to help the North Korean people, they will end this ridiculous embargo (though it was FAR less ridiculous then the Cuban one) and force that fat f*ck out of power.
    It's rather idiotic really. We've helped Kim Jong-Un wall his people off from the modern world. His voice is the only voice any of them hear, and that voice is loudly screaming that they're starving because we're embargoing them.

    Take a look at Russia recently. Our sanctions have had a fair effect, because their economy has become entwined with the world economy over the past 24 years. By embargoing North Korea for 60 years, we've limited our own options, as there's no other tool we can use to influence their behavior other than war.

    I can get on board with short term sanctions and embargoes, but when you do it for decades you neuter your own power and end up screwing the citizens of the country you're embargoing. I think the core of the matter is that coward Americans just want to embargo everyone they see as a threat. It's never been about helping or freeing the people, it's been about protecting their own asses.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Where's the, "Oh hell No!" option?
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    unfortunately there was no Hell NO option because that is the one I would have gone for.
    You're right, it's been working so well so far and Kim Jong-Un is on his knees.
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    Re: Lift sanctions and embargo on North Korea?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    You're right, it's been working so well so far and Kim Jong-Un is on his knees.
    To some degree it has been working, better than in Cuba because in Cuba the US was the only one who really had a total embargo against Cuba. Kim Jong-Un is almost totally isolated and that is how I like it to be, with Castro you can deal to some degree, Kim is an insane idiot and much more dangerous IMHO.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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