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Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

  • Im a right leaning American, yes.

    Votes: 8 33.3%
  • Im a left leaning American, yes.

    Votes: 5 20.8%
  • Im not American, yes.

    Votes: 1 4.2%
  • Im a right leaning American, no.

    Votes: 3 12.5%
  • Im a left leaning American, no.

    Votes: 6 25.0%
  • Im not American, no.

    Votes: 1 4.2%

  • Total voters
    24
Well, I'm not too sure Saturnalias has that big of a resurgence yet and Hanukkah doesn't usually have a fixed date -- perhaps it is a stubborn insistence on correctness rather than political correctness that makes some people go goo goo ga ga?

And the irony is that people complaining out it are essentially making a political correctness argument. The only think that is PC for them is Merry Christmas. I always say Merry Christmas myself, but i don't even give a second thought to it if someone tells me Happy Holidays or whatever instead.

Have a Merry Christmas.
 
Why would anyone be offended either way?

I'm not offended [someone went out of their way to acknowledge a celebration for us all] but, if some says happy holidays or season's greeting, I always respond with a Merry Christmas.

It's the reason for the season.
 
Lets see here. In the beginning of the clip Stein says, "My wife and I celebrate Christmas, big-time. I am sure we have more decorations than anyone within miles of here has.". But then he goes on to rail against commercialism... Hmmmmmmm... He admits he just bought a **** ton of Christmas lights and decorations and proudly showed them off in the video, but then goes on to rail against the "commercialism" of the Christmas season.... Can you say hypocrite..??

Maybe past commercialism. Most of our stuff is old. We usually add/replace a decoration or two each year as they go bad.
 
From my experience the ones who celebrate the REAL meaning of Christmas are not the ones going into debt for Christmas gifts. It seems to be more of the secular folks who focus on the big ticket gifts and trying to out spend the other person. But as far as giving some one a gift? I see nothing wrong with it. And the more america becomes secular the more materialistic it becomes.

You sure? There's not many atheists out there and tons of crowds for Black Friday and other events. You want to stick with your story that they're all secularists?
 
Red can do whatever he so chooses, but what's the point? I guess I could fast during Ramadan but why would I? Am not Muslim so what purpose would it serve me? Essential when you remove Christ from his own birthday celebration you having nothing left but to spend money on trinkets and out of control materialism.... Merry Christmas

Welcome to Christmas in America.
 
No, actually it's about the birth of Jesus Christ. You should look it up, really cool story. Even if you don't believe. :)

There was a time when it was about this. In modern America that has taken a back seat to trampling other humans for 60 bucks off a LED TV.
 
There was a time when it was about this. In modern America that has taken a back seat to trampling other humans for 60 bucks off a LED TV.

Congratulations on your appointment as spokesman for the entire nation. Your parents must be very proud.
 
And so, the annual "War on Christmas" diatribe begins once again....
 
Congratulations on your appointment as spokesman for the entire nation. Your parents must be very proud.

Nope, not a spokesman. Just a man who watches the news and understands statistics.
 
Can we do a poll within this poll to ask how many of those voting no celebrate Christmas themselves? Just out of curiosity
 
I don't see why not.

For the Jewish thing, it's kind of funny. I recently watched a cheesy Christmas film called Switchmas about a Jewish kid from Hollywood who wants to have the storied Christmas experience. It was a cute film with plenty of self-parody of Jewish culture and Christmas films.

We can rant about the commercialism involved in Christmas, but I don't think that gets at what most people use the holiday for. Yes we buy things, but we do so with the aim of thinking about (and spending time with) our loved ones and wanting a positive social experience.

This was why I also chose not to watch Fox News during the time, because while they were trying to convince us that Christmas was dying around us and it was a reason to be angry, I was around family and friends, driving along noticing people around me were generally in the festive mood. No fire and brimstone involved. No culture war being fought.
 
Maybe past commercialism. Most of our stuff is old. We usually add/replace a decoration or two each year as they go bad.

I find it more revealing that some wish to decry people who buy Christmas lights and decorations.
 
You sure? There's not many atheists out there and tons of crowds for Black Friday and other events. You want to stick with your story that they're all secularists?

Oh there are many who say they are "christian" yet they never attend church or show any form of worship. Secular doesn't necessarily mean atheist but non religious.
 
Oh there are many who say they are "christian" yet they never attend church or show any form of worship. Secular doesn't necessarily mean atheist but non religious.

Ahhh, OK. So the Black Friday mass of humanity is atheists and people who don't got to church. Still not sure I buy it.
 


Christmas is the constant target of political correctness in the USA as well as a major driver of the economy, but its also more than that for the majority of Americans, do you agree with Ben Steins perspective?


As usual, I have to agree with Ben.

It is NOT about even colored lights, presents, there is no Biblical support for exchanging gifts. It is an ancient pagan tradition, the same for decorations and trees, which are an extension of the custom of bringing evergreen boughs indoors for "winter freshness".

The biggest insult to me is that Christmas is a celebration of the birth of the Son of God, in whom I fully trust and believe....and most of "the season" is designed for the pagans and atheists who worship lucre, Black Friday's, over-indulgence and gluttony while in a semi conscious state watching football.
 
So what? We don't know what day Jesus was born, they didn't keep very good records of which working stiff was born on which stable on which day back then. So someone chose a day that they already celebrated and for lack of a better idea, decided to celebrate it then. I don't get what the big deal is.

The only reason they did it was to make it easier to appeal to Roman pagans of the day. The Catholic Church was very good at simply incorporating the rituals and celebrations of other religions into their own so they would have a better chance of converting them.
 
The only reason they did it was to make it easier to appeal to Roman pagans of the day. The Catholic Church was very good at simply incorporating the rituals and celebrations of other religions into their own so they would have a better chance of converting them.

Because it's horrible if society redefines marriage but totally cool for christians to redefine what christianity is
 
Nowhere-you just said you celebrate Christmas like activities on Christmas. :cool:

Virtually everyone does, Christmas is an almost entirely secular holiday. Most people celebrate Christmas as a secular holiday. Haven't you figured that out yet?
 
Because it's horrible if society redefines marriage but totally cool for christians to redefine what christianity is

I'm not saying it was good or bad, right or wrong, just that it happened. That's the history behind most of our supposed "Christian" holidays. They were stolen from some other religion.
 
He's about as full of **** as the majority of americans.

Maybe more

Probably more



Now that's an excellent example of "progressives" presenting intelligent insight on a topic, real thought provoking stuff!

When you have had a successful career as a lecturer, author, interviewer, filmmaker, and philosopher you can offer an "informed" opinion that people will listen to. But this proves the intellectual vacuum from which the Obama groveling lemmings stem is deep, vast and as empty as the collective heads of the gathered entities.

"probably more..."

Great stuff!
 
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