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Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

  • Im a right leaning American, yes.

    Votes: 8 33.3%

  • Im a left leaning American, yes.

    Votes: 5 20.8%

  • Im not American, yes.

    Votes: 1 4.2%

  • Im a right leaning American, no.

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • Im a left leaning American, no.

    Votes: 6 25.0%

  • Im not American, no.

    Votes: 1 4.2%
  • Total voters
    24
US Conservative said:
No capitulation. Its just my early Christmas present to myself is not getting into the weeds with you.
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Won't answer the question? I didn't think you could. :)
 
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US Conservative said:
I posted the text of his comments in the OP, but here they are again. And I noticed very few lefties have substantively touched on it...
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He also said, as I pointed out -

the Gentiles had festive lights and we Jews didn't. I didn't like that. I saw no reason why the Gentiles should have all the fun and I still don't. Having those lights and a tree -- that's what I always wanted -- to have colored lights and to be a part of the dominant culture.
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If he really cared for the "Christ" part, he'd be a Christian, but he's not. That's fine, I'm not judging him for not converting. He wanted the cultural attachments around Christmas - the "holidays" if you will - without the religious part. That's not what you think he said, but it is what he said - he wanted the holidays without the Christ part of Christmas.
 
sangha said:
Are you requesting that other posters be more politically correct?
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No sangha, I don't do politically correct ....

But I do promote courtesy

I read somewhere that you and your family gather for meal nearly every week.

That's like Christmas every week.... pretty cool

Enjoy life sangha

Thom Paine
 
Thom Paine said:
No sangha, I don't do politically correct ....

But I do promote courtesy

I read somewhere that you and your family gather for meal nearly every week.

That's like Christmas every week.... pretty cool

Enjoy life sangha

Thom Paine
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He's more religious than anyone expected.
 
rocket88 said:
Likely. But there was no reason to turn the whole Roman calendar on it's head when they didn't know.
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That's fine. The point being that Christmas is what you want to make it. There really nothing (besides the decree of a long-deceased Roman Emperor) that gives the holiday to Jesus or to Christians. If you want to get drunk and give presents, there's a lot precedent for that.

Enjoy the holidays.
 
US Conservative said:
Fair enough but its interesting that you still enjoy aspects of the holiday. Do you spend time with family and friends while they celebrate?
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Yup, with my closest loved ones.
 
rocket88 said:
He also said, as I pointed out -



If he really cared for the "Christ" part, he'd be a Christian, but he's not. That's fine, I'm not judging him for not converting. He wanted the cultural attachments around Christmas - the "holidays" if you will - without the religious part. That's not what you think he said, but it is what he said - he wanted the holidays without the Christ part of Christmas.
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So despite the rest of his comments, and the overall intent of his statement he in it for the lights. Got it. :lol:
 
Thom Paine said:
No sangha, I don't do politically correct ....

But I do promote courtesy
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IOW, you are asking for political correctness, but just calling it something else.

I read somewhere that you and your family gather for meal nearly every week.

That's like Christmas every week.... pretty cool

Enjoy life sangha

Thom Paine
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Yes, it is like Christmas every week but without the shopping anxiety. There's no need to get each other gift when we already have what we need - each other.
 
US Conservative said:
So despite the rest of his comments, and the overall intent of his statement he in it for the lights. Got it. :lol:
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Basically yes. He went in for the cultural attachment, but not the religion.
 
US Conservative said:
What you have just told me is you don't understand the meaning of the word celebration. You should look it up, books are your friend.
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If you don't think getting together with your loved ones and enjoying each others company is a celebration, then you're the one who doesn't know what the word means
 
rocket88 said:
The Puritans were not early Christians. They didn't come on to the scene until 1200 years after Constantine converted the Roman Empire to Christianity.
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Constantine did not convert the Roman Empire to Christianity. He converted himself, and forbade the persecution of Christians. Many of the intellectuals and ruler class actually retained paganism for some time after. Ive got a "transition" coin from his reign that shows both pagan gods, and the cross.
 
sangha said:
Yes, it is like Christmas every week but without the shopping anxiety. There's no need to get each other gift when we already have what we need - each other.
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That's really nice. I can't imagine any way life could be much better than that.

Enjoy Sangha

Thom Paine
 
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