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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    yes.. unfortunately, many people include 'tithing to the church' as their charity, rather than consider it separate. A lot of that money goes to maintaining the Church, providing for a pastor, and giving things like religious education to their own kids, so that the people that benefit from the 'tithe' are the ones giving the tithe. That isn't to say that there isn't wonderful works being done by the churches, but the fact so many people think that giving money to the church that directly benefits them as 'charity' is a bit inconsistent with what Charity is.

    Of course, you don't have to belong to a religious organization to do charitable works either.
    Thats between the members and their Church/congregation/etc to decide. And it still doesn't change the fact that the religious give more to charity than the non-religious.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thats between the members and their Church/congregation/etc to decide. And it still doesn't change the fact that the religious give more to charity than the non-religious.
    Because of the fact that the 'tithe' to the church directly benefits them, it's not charity, even though they count it as charity. That skews the numbers. Because of that, I do not see how accurate that claim is. It might be true. It might not be. The numbers I have seen don't take that into account.. so I do not know if that can be considered true or not.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    Because of the fact that the 'tithe' to the church directly benefits them, it's not charity, even though they count it as charity. That skews the numbers. Because of that, I do not see how accurate that claim is. It might be true. It might not be. The numbers I have seen don't take that into account.. so I do not know if that can be considered true or not.

    I can only know what I have done.
    The most recent study I saw (part of a longstanding trend) suggests that the majority (and still more than the non-religious) give to charitable organizations, ie specifically not a tithing.

    So its not skewed, but if you have conflicting data please post it. This also extends beyond political ideology, as more religious dems and republicans give more to charity.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Western ideals are based out of the Judeo-Christian ethic. Please read books for once.
    See ^^

    You can really feel the Judeo-Christian ethic of love, peace, and understanding. Merry Christmas to you too, sir.
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    I don't agree with him on the 'saved' thing, but I do agree about it being about love and peace. For me, it's also about the fellowship and festivities. I absolutely love the decorations and lights. As for presents, I spend what I can afford, I do not drive myself into debt over it.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Who gave you, a mere Leftist of the party of hypocrisy and stupidity, that mantle?
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    I liked Ben Stein's definition of Christmas. It fits right in with my interpretation. It is about forgiveness. There are several Psalms that depict righteousness in the form of an evergreen tree whether it be the cedars of Lebanon, a palm tree, or an olive tree. I am reminded of that when I see a Christmas tree. Another thing that stands out to me is Hanukkah also known as "the festival of lights" and coincides in timing with the Gentile Christmas celebration. I happen to be from a family that has Jewish and Gentile traditions. In my house you will find a Menorah and a Christmas tree. Gentiles know how to do lights! But the Menorah is a reminder of a great miracle. All the commandments of God are summed up in two. 1. Love God 2. Love Others. Everything evolves around love. And in order to love you have to be willing to forgive.

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