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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

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    You weren't born with either. Somewhere in your learning, it was impressed upon you.
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    So why isn't the reverse also true? We all know what "Seasons Greetings" or "Happy Holidays" means. Why not just say that?

    If someone wants to wish me a Season Greetings, fine, if someone wishes to wish me Merry Christmas fine.. or Happy holidays or what ever. Just be pleasant and happy to me, and I'll be pleasant and happy to you.
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    From Western ideals and liberalism? You can really see the love, generosity, and selflessness of Christians in American politics today (lol).
    Western ideals are based out of the Judeo-Christian ethic. Please read books for once.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, I have a distinct pro-reality bent. The problem with people believing absurd things is that beliefs inform actions and that leads to people acting in absurd ways which does affect others. If you can keep your mind poison in your head, fine. If you can't, then it is the responsibility of society to disabuse you of your religious insanity.
    There are many real and tangible benefits of western religion as well, like charity, and healthcare. I honestly wonder if some of these militant atheists I see are aware of that.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    If someone wants to wish me a Season Greetings, fine, if someone wishes to wish me Merry Christmas fine.. or Happy holidays or what ever. Just be pleasant and happy to me, and I'll be pleasant and happy to you.
    Seems logical to me. Merry Christmas!

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Modern healthcare was born of the Enlightenment (I wonder why they called it that?) Reason became the driving force for humanity, and science.
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Seems logical to me. Merry Christmas!
    And a Merry Christmas to you too.
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    There are many real and tangible benefits of western religion as well, like charity, and healthcare. I honestly wonder if some of these militant atheists I see are aware of that.
    All of which can be had without the absurd belief structure. There are plenty of secular charities and hospitals around.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    There are many real and tangible benefits of western religion as well, like charity, and healthcare. I honestly wonder if some of these militant atheists I see are aware of that.
    yes.. unfortunately, many people include 'tithing to the church' as their charity, rather than consider it separate. A lot of that money goes to maintaining the Church, providing for a pastor, and giving things like religious education to their own kids, so that the people that benefit from the 'tithe' are the ones giving the tithe. That isn't to say that there isn't wonderful works being done by the churches, but the fact so many people think that giving money to the church that directly benefits them as 'charity' is a bit inconsistent with what Charity is.

    Of course, you don't have to belong to a religious organization to do charitable works either.
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    All of which can be had without the absurd belief structure. There are plenty of secular charities and hospitals around.
    And you can find pro-capitalist communism as well.
    BTW, even here in the US look at the top ten charities and I'd expect much of the hospitals to be religious. And its not like the problem is too many hospitals. If you are a boomer its something to consider.

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