View Poll Results: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    An ancient religious holy day that celebrates the birth of Jesus Christ is almost entirely secular? I think you might be projecting what you'd like to be the case. Either way, its a bit ironic.
    It hasn't been about Jesus for a long time. It's about Santa Claus and trees and presents. Join the modern day.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It hasn't been about Jesus for a long time. It's about Santa Claus and trees and presents. Join the modern day.
    You have a distinct anti-religion bent. Im fine with believing what they'd like but I don't get your antagonism.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post


    Christmas is the constant target of political correctness in the USA as well as a major driver of the economy, but its also more than that for the majority of Americans, do you agree with Ben Steins perspective?
    l agree christmas ornaments are enjoyable side of the capitalist millenium
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thats directly contradicts the comments of many of the lefties in this thread. But I still expect them to tell us all exactly what Christmas is about.
    Like the guy said on FOX news this morning...parents spend $50,000 a year for their kids to hate them, their traditions and their country.

    None of this is surprising.
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I'm confused why Ben Stein chose to use the word "saved" and then says: "This is why Christmas is such a joyous time for people, whether Jews...".

    That doesn't make sense to me. Since when do Jewish people believe in being saved? Isn't that purely Christian?

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    And I voted no because, while Christmas has religious ideals behind it, I find Christmas to be about love, generosity, and selflessness.
    Where do you think those ideals sprang from? [ love, generosity, and selflessness]
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    There's an ever-so subtle attack on Christmas/Christians happening here. 8)
    No, there is an an ever so subtle attack on hypocrisy and stupid.
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It hasn't been about Jesus for a long time. It's about Santa Claus and trees and presents. Join the modern day.
    you wouldnt care if it was about jesus
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Where do you think those ideals sprang from? [ love, generosity, and selflessness]
    Humanity.
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Any expression of affection and good wishes, I take as a good thing. There's way too much suffering in the world, to be offended by good wishes. If you can't just appreciate that someone wishes you well in a season that is special to them, then your attitude sucks.

    I don't know if you've ever read my story about my old friend from when I used to work the pedi icu unit back in the 80's. One of the pediatricians was a Jewish man from NYC, and he moved down here to be the medical director of the unit I worked on. Over the first year that he was here, we became good friends- close enough that he would take me to lunch for my birthday, or spend time in his office just talking about life. One year for Christmas, I gave him a funny Christmas card. On front of the card, was a picture of a red rose. Inside, it read :

    Roses are Reddish
    Violets are Bluish
    If it wasn't for Jesus
    We all would be Jewish.

    We got some great laughs out of that, and it was nice to have a friend who was Jewish, who also celebrated Christmas, and wasn't offended that I joked about religion, and didn't get his ass upon his shoulders if someone said Merry Christmas to him.
    Why would a Jewish person get upset when you say Merry Christmas? After all you are worshiping a Jew. Thanks for that.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    We don't know what day Jesus was born, but we know he definitely wasn't born on December 25. He was likely born in either late spring or early fall.
    Or that he was born.

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