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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I was referring to your characterization of the season as being practically barbaric (despite the relative rarity of such occurrences), because you have seen videos from the comfort of your couch.

    Thanks for the lesson professor, but I hardly needed them to know you were being a blowhard. Perhaps it is indeed a "Jersey thing."
    Hahah, well one can pick up many bad habits from this state. However, my intellectual pretentiousness was not born from anything remotely Jersey. That's more a Colorado thing, which is my true home. I don't think that many New Jerseyans are smart enough to be intellectually pretentious.
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Like I said, isolated incident. When did this occur? Do you also believe incidents like this cause everyone to lose all meaning of Christmas?
    Door Busters are called Door Busters for a reason. Deaths are rare in these events, they happen but not often. But just look, store to store from coast to coast this disgusting display of greed and hatred. That in and of itself is not rare, and does it cause Christmas to lose all meaning? On whole, yes. There are certainly families that can keep it together and profess the actual religious background and beliefs. But if you're going to rip items away from others and fight and all the other BS that goes along with these massive consumer events, how can you be said to be holding up to the ideals of Christianity and celebrating Christmas as the birth of Jesus, focusing on his teachings and his love? It's the antithesis thereof. You can't run with the Devil and claim Christ (not saying that you do personally, but in general).
    Last edited by Ikari; 12-19-14 at 07:46 PM.
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Hahah, well one can pick up many bad habits from this state. However, my intellectual pretentiousness was not born from anything remotely Jersey. That's more a Colorado thing, which is my true home. I don't think that many New Jerseyans are smart enough to be intellectually pretentious.
    I'm sure there are more than a few Tigers who'd beg to differ...
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
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    And the other part of my question?

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Door Busters are called Door Busters for a reason. Deaths are rare in these events, they happen but not often. But just look, store to store from coast to coast this disgusting display of greed and hatred. That in and of itself is not rare, and does it cause Christmas to lose all meaning? On whole, yes. There are certainly families that can keep it together and profess the actual religious background and beliefs. But if you're going to rip items away from others and fight and all the other BS that goes along with these massive consumer events, how can you be said to be holding up to the ideals of Christianity and celebrating Christmas as the birth of Jesus, focusing on his teachings and his love? It's the antithesis thereof. You can't run with the Devil and claim Christ (not saying that you do personally, but in general).
    You're just being silly and contrarian. If you ever want to have a serious discussion, let me know. Until then.....buh-bye.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    You're just being silly and contrarian. If you ever want to have a serious discussion, let me know. Until then.....buh-bye.
    KK, and you let me know when you're willing to not run away from a debate. Maybe these two things will align one day....one day.
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    KK, and you let me know when you're willing to not run away from a debate. Maybe these two things will align one day....one day.
    I don't run away from debate, I just don't play silly lib games.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    I don't run away from debate, I just don't play silly lib games.
    Well your deflectionary arguments are painting a different story. It's cool, it's cool. Maybe one day.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Ahhh, OK. So the Black Friday mass of humanity is atheists and people who don't got to church. Still not sure I buy it.
    Several atheists have posted in this thread that they celebrate, including gifts for family members. Something for you to consider.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Several atheists have posted in this thread that they celebrate, including gifts for family members. Something for you to consider.
    I know they do, but that has nothing with the sentence you quoted.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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