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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Do you mean that in the Netherlands Christmas and x-mas have distinctly different meanings?
    Well, as we speak different languages most do not call it Christmas or x-mas. Most of us call it kerstfeest, kerst or kerstmis. We do not have the name of Christ in our word for the holiday season.

    The last one, kerstmis can be translated at the mass at kerst (24th of December at midnight). Feest stands for party/celebration and when it is combined with kerst as in kerstfeest, it just means the party/celebration on the 25th and 26th of December. And kerst is just the days of 25th and 26th of December (usually in combination with a nice meal on the 24th of December when most if not all companies close earlier and all shops close early so that everybody can be home on kerstavond (evening of the 24th of December).
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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    A simple question-What historical event does Christmas celebrate?
    The winter solstice.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So you are changing your point for the meaning of the celebration of Christmas? It went from upholding Ben Steins of "forgiveness and love" to "birth of Christ"?
    We've already established that you celebrate Christmas.
    You tell me what the religious holiday celebrates.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I do not celebrate the birth of christ, I celebrate the holiday season. I do not really celebrate anything except having a good last year maybe.
    So on the 25th of december, what celebration are you taking part in? Is it the birth of Christ?

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well, as we speak different languages most do not call it Christmas or x-mas. Most of us call it kerstfeest, kerst or kerstmis. We do not have the name of Christ in our word for the holiday season.

    The last one, kerstmis can be translated at the mass at kerst (24th of December at midnight). Feest stands for party/celebration and when it is combined with kerst as in kerstfeest, it just means the party/celebration on the 25th and 26th of December. And kerst is just the days of 25th and 26th of December (usually in combination with a nice meal on the 24th of December when most if not all companies close earlier and all shops close early so that everybody can be home on kerstavond (evening of the 24th of December).
    So Kerstfeest means Christ celebration, no? Even if you aren't Christian aren't you celebrating the birth of Christ?

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We've already established that you celebrate Christmas.
    You tell me what the religious holiday celebrates.
    You didnt answer my questions. I will ask you again: So you are changing your point for the meaning of the celebration of Christmas? It went from upholding Ben Steins of "forgiveness and love" to "birth of Christ"?


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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You didnt answer my questions. I will ask you again: So you are changing your point for the meaning of the celebration of Christmas? It went from upholding Ben Steins of "forgiveness and love" to "birth of Christ"?
    Look man, Im not changing a thing. Stop dancing and take a chill pill. I get it-you are an atheist. But what you dont get is you celebrate the birth of Christ each year. Theres no shame in that, just saying.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Look man, Im not changing a thing. Stop dancing and take a chill pill. I get it-you are an atheist. But what you dont get is you celebrate the birth of Christ each year. Theres no shame in that, just saying.
    So you are not gonna answer the questions?


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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Look man, Im not changing a thing. Stop dancing and take a chill pill. I get it-you are an atheist. But what you dont get is you celebrate the birth of Christ each year. Theres no shame in that, just saying.
    The date celebrated is based on the winter solstice.

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    Re: Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    So on the 25th of december, what celebration are you taking part in? Is it the birth of Christ?
    I celebrate the passing of yet another year with loved ones. Of our ups and downs and we celebrate being together for a nice dinner (this year we are eating "ragout of chicken" and "Konijn op zijn Limburgs" (rabbit Limburg style) with pommes duchesse and poached gieser wildeman pears.

    The feeling of kerst is enhanced by a nice kerstboom (kerst-tree), this year and nice red (last year blue/pastel green)

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    The star on top is not religious, it was a toss up, between the usual "piek"

    Do you agree with Ben Stein's unique Christmas perspective?-gg0370_02-luxe-pieken-met-2-bollen-jpg

    and this star but as the star was bought new together with other red things (birdcage, cupcakes, etc, pumps, ice-skates) we chose to put the red star on, next year we will most likely have a golden, silver, blue, or one of the other 2 or 3 colors we have kerstballen for (decorations) for. I used to work for a store selling christmas decorations. I had the luck that the manufacturer would only accept unused boxes back from the store so they sold it to us employees for 3 dollars or so for an entire big bag full of decorations.

    Add to that cooking together and baking together adds to the festive and relaxed feeling of our version of kerst.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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