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    Re: Was Sony correct canceling "The Interview?"

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The four largest theater chains in the country - Regal, AMC, Cinemark and Carmike - pulled it from their theaters. That's not "a few theaters". Those companies account for 1526 theaters in the country - that's the vast majority of theaters. Like I said, Sony had no choice but to pull it after they pulled out.


    There are 40,000 theaters in the us.... they represent 3.815% of all theaters in the country.
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    Re: Was Sony correct canceling "The Interview?"

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
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    Seems rather clear to me, North Korea not only had the emails, but they had PICTURES!


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    Probably the last straw...

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    Re: Was Sony correct canceling "The Interview?"

    Well, let's see here, a movie is made about the CIA telling journalists to off (kill) the leader of another country.

    Why would anyone consider making a movie like that in the first place? IMO, it's in bad taste. Besides, doesn't America have some sort of credo that it's not supposed to assassinate leaders of other countries? As much as people might dislike NK leadership, and other countries leadership, is it a good thing to send a message like that? That we're coming to get you?

    and people sit around wondering why people of other nations want to, and do cause harm and death to Americans... definitely a head scratcher-trying to figure out why. stupid Sony.

    and people wonder why NK has nuclear ambitions.

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    Re: Was Sony correct canceling "The Interview?"

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Well, let's see here, a movie is made about the CIA telling journalists to off (kill) the leader of another country.

    Why would anyone consider making a movie like that in the first place? IMO, it's in bad taste. Besides, doesn't America have some sort of credo that it's not supposed to assassinate leaders of other countries? As much as people might dislike NK leadership, and other countries leadership, is it a good thing to send a message like that? That we're coming to get you?

    and people sit around wondering why people of other nations want to, and do cause harm and death to Americans... definitely a head scratcher-trying to figure out why. stupid Sony.
    That is probably one of the dumbest pieces of analysis I have seen in foreign policy. It's right up there with a Canadian who a few years ago told me that the only reason that China et. al. maintained a military was because the U.S. had a military, and if we laid down our arms, the rest of the world would follow.

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    Re: Was Sony correct canceling "The Interview?"

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That is probably one of the dumbest pieces of analysis I have seen in foreign policy. It's right up there with a Canadian who a few years ago told me that the only reason that China et. al. maintained a military was because the U.S. had a military, and if we laid down our arms, the rest of the world would follow.
    Thanks for your critique. Amurika should go kill everyone who hates it.

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    Re: Was Sony correct canceling "The Interview?"

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
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    This reminds me of when Comedy Central decided to suck the balls of terrorists by censoring Mohamed and eventually removing Mohamed from the south-park episodes.
    Comedy Central Censors 'South Park' Episode After Muslim Site's Threats | Fox News
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    Re: Was Sony correct canceling "The Interview?"

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    There are 40,000 theaters in the us.... they represent 3.815% of all theaters in the country.
    No, there are 40,000 movie SCREENS in the US. There are only 5700 THEATERS. If you want to count in SCREENS, then the four chains I mentioned + the additional one who cancelled that I forgot to mention (Cineplex), then 21,406 screens, or 53%, pulled the movie. Like I said, Sony had no choice.

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    Re: Was Sony correct canceling "The Interview?"

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    No, there are 40,000 movie SCREENS in the US. There are only 5700 THEATERS. If you want to count in SCREENS, then the four chains I mentioned + the additional one who cancelled that I forgot to mention (Cineplex), then 21,406 screens, or 53%, pulled the movie. Like I said, Sony had no choice.


    I stand corrected.


    That said, reading your last link all the theaters spoke of "postponing" until sony got it's **** together, none said they wouldn't show it, but wanted to be sure they had something in the slots on christmas day.



    Fact is, you can show it in some theaters and try to recoup some of the loss, or you can not show it in any theaters and lose all of the money. Financially, cancelling it completely makes no sense.


    Again, N. Korea has never made a terrorist attack on the USA.
    Sony was PRE-APOLOGIZING for things that might leak.


    This is either a publicity stunt, and the movie will come out, or sony is trying to appease N. Korea because of information it has.




    and then there is this. hmmmmmm.

    https://twitter.com/JuddApatow/statu...05683386580992
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    Re: Was Sony correct canceling "The Interview?"

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    1. Sony cancelled it after all the major theaters decided not to air it. In other words, there's no point in releasing a movie that will not be shown anywhere. Therefore, the more appropriate question to ask, from my perspective, is "were the theaters correct in cancelling "The Interview"?

    Sony has had a much more complicated history with this film than this.

    The first time North Korea shot out in anger, Sony pressured Rogen to: 1) Cut the character out completely 2) Once denied that, asked that his death sequence be removed. This was all done because they "threatened war" (in the usual and practically parodied North Korean bravado). Rogen refused on both accounts. Sony then dealt with the hacking scandal and subsequent terrorist threat. Then proceeded to bow over above and beyond the call of duty, despite the government claiming there was no actionable evidence of a threat. First they drew down the publicity. There may have been concerns expressed by the theater chains prior, however, Sony called an emergency meeting before the chains pulled out and gave them the contractual okay to release themselves from the film. Sony initiated the pull-outs. They even cut an unrelated film starring Steve Carell, because its plot centered around North Korea (without any pressure from the hacking group or North Korea). They then refuse to release "The Interview" under any format and removed all publicity ties to the film.

    Sony, throughout this entire process, has been weak-kneed and almost acted as if it was their duty to exercise American foreign policy. Hell, they decided to give them more than what they asked for. Instead of one film killed, they kill two. This tells me that Sony has consistently acted in bad faith and erred on the side of caving in (and even rewarding) to North Korean threats throughout the post-production and release process.

    2. As far as that last question, I can't say for sure what I would have done if I were in the theaters' position. On the one hand, I would be hesitant to release a movie when a terrorist threats were made against the theaters just so that people could see a stupid movie. I would hate (understatement) to go through with something that could ultimately lead to civilian deaths. On the other hand, I would not want to cave into such coercion and intimidation. I would have probably contacted the government in order to discern whether or not the threats were credible. If the government didn't think they were credible, I would probably go through with a limited release and increase security at theaters, if possible, just to be safe.
    Correct. The concerns were justifiable, but the actions send a terrible message for this globalized internet age.

    It's unfortunate North Korea's intimidation has reached beyond its borders, but it would be more unfortunate if people died because theaters were too proud to heed warnings. I think the theaters made the appropriate short-term response. However, the U.S. government must craft a long-term strategy to deal with such coercion.
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    Re: Was Sony correct canceling "The Interview?"

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I stand corrected.


    That said, reading your last link all the theaters spoke of "postponing" until sony got it's **** together, none said they wouldn't show it, but wanted to be sure they had something in the slots on christmas day.



    Fact is, you can show it in some theaters and try to recoup some of the loss, or you can not show it in any theaters and lose all of the money. Financially, cancelling it completely makes no sense.


    Again, N. Korea has never made a terrorist attack on the USA.
    Sony was PRE-APOLOGIZING for things that might leak.


    This is either a publicity stunt, and the movie will come out, or sony is trying to appease N. Korea because of information it has.




    and then there is this. hmmmmmm.

    https://twitter.com/JuddApatow/statu...05683386580992
    When I initially heard that the majority theater chains were pulling it and that Sony the pulled it completely, I wondered if they were just going to wait to release it after everything blew over. I have also seen people say that this is a publicity stunt or that Sony doesn't want NK to release some sensitive information. I wouldn't be surprised by any of those outcomes. And yes, NK hasn't ever made a terrorist attack against the US - this is one of the reasons I initially said that, if I were a theater chain, I would consult the government on whether or not they considered the threat credible before taking action. Ultimately, I'm just waiting for Christmas when this supposed "big leak" is coming. I hope it lives up to its potential.

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