Personally, I said in none of these cases.
I don't like the State making such decisions without prior consent of a court.
I am much more in favour of a Child Advocacy Protocol, as we have here in Canada, but I'd like to see it have more teeth and the Children's Aid Societies have far less teeth.
I am in favour of a strong Child Advocate who could sue the parents of children who are involved in such situations and who can quickly seek court relief for the care and comfort of any child in such a situation.
I don't want to see any child harmed and I want to see any negligent parent punished appropriately. That's not happening in today's system and too often children are viewed as mere chattel and their independent human rights are discounted in relation to the parents and the state.