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A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

Should The CIA be abolished?


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A Timeline of CIA Atrocities
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The following timeline describes just a few of the hundreds of atrocities and crimes committed by the CIA. (1)CIA operations follow the same recurring script. First, American business interests abroad are threatened by a popular or democratically elected leader. The people support their leader because he intends to conduct land reform, strengthen unions, redistribute wealth, nationalize foreign-owned industry, and regulate business to protect workers, consumers and the environment. So, on behalf of American business, and often with their help, the CIA mobilizes the opposition. First it identifies right-wing groups within the country (usually the military), and offers them a deal: "We'll put you in power if you maintain a favorable business climate for us." The Agency then hires, trains and works with them to overthrow the existing government (usually a democracy). It uses every trick in the book: propaganda, stuffed ballot boxes, purchased elections, extortion, blackmail, sexual intrigue, false stories about opponents in the local media, infiltration and disruption of opposing political parties, kidnapping, beating, torture, intimidation, economic sabotage, death squads and even assassination. These efforts culminate in a military coup, which installs a right-wing dictator. The CIA trains the dictator’s security apparatus to crack down on the traditional enemies of big business, using interrogation, torture and murder. The victims are said to be "communists," but almost always they are just peasants, liberals, moderates, labor union leaders, political opponents and advocates of free speech and democracy. Widespread human rights abuses follow.
This scenario has been repeated so many times that the CIA actually teaches it in a special school, the notorious "School of the Americas." (It opened in Panama but later moved to Fort Benning, Georgia.) Critics have nicknamed it the "School of the Dictators" and "School of the Assassins." Here, the CIA trains Latin American military officers how to conduct coups, including the use of interrogation, torture and murder.
A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

The Association for Responsible Dissent estimates that by 1987, 6 million people had died as a result of CIA covert operations. (2) Former State Department official William Blum correctly calls this an "American Holocaus

A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

Read the entire article

It doesn't read like torture is a recent CIA policy, but an enduring policy.

There doesn't seem to be much control over CIA activities.

Do we need the CIA?

Is the CIA involved in Economic Sabotage by manipulating markets?

Does the CIA work for the people or CORPORATE America?

Is it OK for the CIA to lie to Congress?

Is it OK for the CIA to infiltrate our "FREE PRESS?"(sarcasm, you get what you pay for)

Should the CIA be abolished? The Poll Question.
 
Of course it should be abolished. I didn't even have to read the timeline but after a quick glance it only backed up my stance.
 
I have said it before...end the bloody CIA.

Give their duties to the FBI or the military (whichever is applicable)...same with the NSA.

And get rid of the bloody Department of Paranoia - er - Homeland Security (back to FBI).
 
Do we need the CIA?

For a long while, I was under the impression that we did in fact need the CIA. But they've been proven to lie about their own effectiveness and usefulness so now I'm skeptical on the matter. Until they prove otherwise I am inclined to agree with you on the matter.

Is the CIA involved in Economic Sabotage by manipulating markets?

I would need to see actual proof of this before I comment on the matter. Can you cite me the info on this

Does the CIA work for the people or CORPORATE America?

I think the CIA thinks they're working in the best interests of the American People. But our country has proven to be Corporate first time and time again so who knows at this point?

Is it OK for the CIA to lie to Congress?

Never. Never should any public group should be able to lie an manipulate information to our lawmakers and public officials to get the results they want.

Is it OK for the CIA to infiltrate our "FREE PRESS?"(sarcasm, you get what you pay for)

Not at all.

Should the CIA be abolished? The Poll Question.
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I wouldn't know about abolish as much as a major overhaul and needed reform to keep them accountable for their actions.
 
Yes, definitely we should abolish having any knowledge of what is happening in the rest of the world. We really should also go ahead and ban any Internet, mail and phone calls in and out of the USA too. Outlaw any travel to and from the USA. Pure isolation. Declare the rest of the world doesn't even exist.

Instead, should any rare questions come to the President about other countries, all the President needs is a quija board.

People have no clue what 99% of what the Central INTELLIGENCE Agency does.

And it's tragic that but for the CIA and NSA none of the attrocities against Native Americans would have ever happened. No wars on false information, nor colonialism or oppressing other countries. All that back to the founding of this country came from the CIA and NSA. I can't recall what year exactly in the 1700s or early 1800s the CIA and NSA were first created? Was it President Washington or Jackson? All evil came from the CIA and NSA in USA history.

Eliminate the CIA and NSA and misconduct to others will finally be over. Replace it with the pure behavior Domestic FBI and the perfectly good and decent military.

How naive and knee-jerk reactions to the millionaire television talking head can people be? Apparently there is no limit. :roll:

I totally oppose torture under any circumstance, but just how foolish and gullible are people?
 
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It's obvious this country's enemies would like to see an end to the CIA, as well as all the DIA, NSA, NRO, and all the other agencies that contribute to the security of the United States. When I see people share our enemies' view on that issue--especially when I consider that most of these same people seldom miss a chance to run America down--I have to wonder why.
 
Reformed to suit it's necessary mission - foreign intel gathering. They should never be the action arm, gather intel and analyze ONLY. The military is our action arm, not the friggin CIA.
 
"Other."

In a better world I would agree we should not have the CIA, but that is just wildly unrealistic as of today.

Many things can be changed about our foreign policy, how we use our military, and how we handle international intelligence operations. If we adopted the Swiss model but with our own flavor of "armed neutrality" then the strain on the CIA (or similar organization) would be far less. Consequently we would not have to debate so often the use of torture and other questionable means of gathering intelligence all under the political umbrella of "national security." But that is going to take a considerable amount of time and determined effort to undo all that we have done since just WWII, and in some ways before even that.

The truth is the CIA has a 70+ year history of human rights violations, illegal activities including assassinations, deception of even Congress, overthrowing or at least undermining democratically elected governments, participation in drug trades, spying on Americans citizens and even Congress itself, and upsetting some of our closest allies with their activity. Things need to change, but it will take real time to accomplish this task I suspect no one from ole (D) or (R) is willing to take on.
 
Just reformed. They're very good at their job, they just need to clean up the way they do it.
 
A Timeline of CIA Atrocities
"
The following timeline describes just a few of the hundreds of atrocities and crimes committed by the CIA. (1)CIA operations follow the same recurring script. First, American business interests abroad are threatened by a popular or democratically elected leader. The people support their leader because he intends to conduct land reform, strengthen unions, redistribute wealth, nationalize foreign-owned industry, and regulate business to protect workers, consumers and the environment. So, on behalf of American business, and often with their help, the CIA mobilizes the opposition. First it identifies right-wing groups within the country (usually the military), and offers them a deal: "We'll put you in power if you maintain a favorable business climate for us." The Agency then hires, trains and works with them to overthrow the existing government (usually a democracy). It uses every trick in the book: propaganda, stuffed ballot boxes, purchased elections, extortion, blackmail, sexual intrigue, false stories about opponents in the local media, infiltration and disruption of opposing political parties, kidnapping, beating, torture, intimidation, economic sabotage, death squads and even assassination. These efforts culminate in a military coup, which installs a right-wing dictator. The CIA trains the dictator’s security apparatus to crack down on the traditional enemies of big business, using interrogation, torture and murder. The victims are said to be "communists," but almost always they are just peasants, liberals, moderates, labor union leaders, political opponents and advocates of free speech and democracy. Widespread human rights abuses follow.
This scenario has been repeated so many times that the CIA actually teaches it in a special school, the notorious "School of the Americas." (It opened in Panama but later moved to Fort Benning, Georgia.) Critics have nicknamed it the "School of the Dictators" and "School of the Assassins." Here, the CIA trains Latin American military officers how to conduct coups, including the use of interrogation, torture and murder.
A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

The Association for Responsible Dissent estimates that by 1987, 6 million people had died as a result of CIA covert operations. (2) Former State Department official William Blum correctly calls this an "American Holocaus

A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

Read the entire article

It doesn't read like torture is a recent CIA policy, but an enduring policy.

There doesn't seem to be much control over CIA activities.

Do we need the CIA?

Is the CIA involved in Economic Sabotage by manipulating markets?

Does the CIA work for the people or CORPORATE America?

Is it OK for the CIA to lie to Congress?

Is it OK for the CIA to infiltrate our "FREE PRESS?"(sarcasm, you get what you pay for)

Should the CIA be abolished? The Poll Question.

I yes the CIA should be abolished.But as long as the government is allowed to keep anything they want secret these things conducted by the CIA will continue,they will be just continued by some other alphabet agency. As far as I am concerned the only thing the government should be allowed to keep secret is troop movement during a time of war.

Any congressman who says the CIA lied to them is a lying sack of **** who is trying to kiss up to the voters by playing innocent.If the congressman is some noob I could probably see that congressman being lied to.

As for the School of Americas being a school of dictators. That is nonsense spread by morons trying to demonize a whole based on a few bad apples.What those morons are doing amounts to demonizing the whole military because of Lee Harvey Oswald,Timothy McViegh or some other scumbag who served in the military.
 
Reformed to suit it's necessary mission - foreign intel gathering. They should never be the action arm, gather intel and analyze ONLY. The military is our action arm, not the friggin CIA.

The only problem with that is there just certain things the military is allowed to do. The rules to what the US military can and cannot die are spelled out pretty in depth.
 
I yes the CIA should be abolished.But as long as the government is allowed to keep anything they want secret these things conducted by the CIA will continue,they will be just continued by some other alphabet agency. As far as I am concerned the only thing the government should be allowed to keep secret is troop movement during a time of war.

Any congressman who says the CIA lied to them is a lying sack of **** who is trying to kiss up to the voters by playing innocent.If the congressman is some noob I could probably see that congressman being lied to.

As for the School of Americas being a school of dictators. That is nonsense spread by morons trying to demonize a whole based on a few bad apples.What those morons are doing amounts to demonizing the whole military because of Lee Harvey Oswald,Timothy McViegh or some other scumbag who served in the military.

Other than I think there are quite a few more things the U.S. government needs to keep secret I agree with the rest of this post completely.
The CIA is not some rouge agency that is operating as they see fit.
Are people here honestly naive enough to think that the vast majority of politicians don't pretend that they had no idea what the CIA was doing rather than take some negative press. The CIA does much more positive for this country than negative.

The rest is just a bunch of conspiracy nut nonsense that belongs in the CT section.
 
Other than I think there are quite a few more things the U.S. government needs to keep secret I agree with the rest of this post completely.
The CIA is not some rouge agency that is operating as they see fit.
Are people here honestly naive enough to think that the vast majority of politicians don't pretend that they had no idea what the CIA was doing rather than take some negative press. The CIA does much more positive for this country than negative.

The rest is just a bunch of conspiracy nut nonsense that belongs in the CT section.

Yes they are.Its how clowns like these keep getting elected even though it is obvious to anyone they don't support what they say they support.

 
Other than I think there are quite a few more things the U.S. government needs to keep secret I agree with the rest of this post completely.
The CIA is not some rouge agency that is operating as they see fit.
Are people here honestly naive enough to think that the vast majority of politicians don't pretend that they had no idea what the CIA was doing rather than take some negative press. The CIA does much more positive for this country than negative.

The rest is just a bunch of conspiracy nut nonsense that belongs in the CT section.

You will note that the Timeline of CIA atrocities left out CIA drug dealing, CIA arms trading
to embargoed Nations, CIA manipulation of banks to conceal drug and arms cash, and ergo
it is a censored and unduly mild report of CIA transgressions. I don't want to leave the
impression that it is even a partially complete report, just some lowlights. I would expect
the PPT and Exchange Stabilization Funds of the US Treasury are also controlled by CIA
financial terrorism assets.
 
Just reformed. They're very good at their job, they just need to clean up the way they do it.

Agreed.

The thought of no intel or espionage capability with global reach I think would put the nation at a distinct disadvantage, much to our detriment.

Why is it that all the other nations have intel / espionage organization? Perhaps that it's actually needed?
 
Support for Coup in 1970. Under “Track II” of the strategy, CIA sought to instigate a coup to prevent Allende from taking office after he won a plurality in the 4 September election and before, as Constitutionally required because he did not win an absolute majority, the Chilean Congress reaffirmed his victory. CIA was working with three different groups of plotters. All three groups made it clear that any coup would require the kidnapping of Army Commander Rene Schneider, who felt deeply that the Constitution required that the Army allow Allende to assume power. CIA agreed with that assessment. Although CIA provided weapons to one of the groups, we have found no information that the plotters’ or CIA’s intention was for the general to be killed. Contact with one group of plotters was dropped early on because of its extremist tendencies. CIA provided tear gas, submachine-guns and ammunition to the second group. The third group attempted to kidnap Schneider, mortally wounding him in the attack. CIA had previously encouraged this group to launch a coup but withdrew support four days before the attack because, in CIA’s assessment, the group could not carry it out successfully.

Awareness of Coup


https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/general-reports-1/chile/index.html
 
Agreed.

The thought of no intel or espionage capability with global reach I think would put the nation at a distinct disadvantage, much to our detriment.

Why is it that all the other nations have intel / espionage organization? Perhaps that it's actually needed?

I would say it is needed very much. We really play it cool compared to other intel agencies around the world. But to learn dirty secrets one must dig in the dirt.
 
You will note that the Timeline of CIA atrocities left out CIA drug dealing, CIA arms trading
to embargoed Nations, CIA manipulation of banks to conceal drug and arms cash, and ergo
it is a censored and unduly mild report of CIA transgressions. I don't want to leave the
impression that it is even a partially complete report, just some lowlights. I would expect
the PPT and Exchange Stabilization Funds of the US Treasury are also controlled by CIA
financial terrorism assets.
Yes like I said conspiracy theory BS.
 
Yes like I said conspiracy theory BS.

That's sort of like a hamburger without a bun. Can you provide any credible
links for that. Also, identify specifically which factual details can be
construed to be conspiracy theory BS. Use a little Braindrain and release
some of those awesome facts, or not.
 
That's sort of like a hamburger without a bun. Can you provide any credible
links for that. Also, identify specifically which factual details can be
construed to be conspiracy theory BS. Use a little Braindrain and release
some of those awesome facts, or not.

Hate to tell you this but it is not up to me to disprove your BS claims. You need to prove your supposed facts.
This should be fun seeing what nut job website you use for your proof.
 
Hate to tell you this but it is not up to me to disprove your BS claims. You need to prove your supposed facts.
This should be fun seeing what nut job website you use for your proof.

It is exactly as I anticipated. You got nuttin'. No surprise there.
 

I was thinking the same thing.

I'm not saying that that timeline isn't accurate (or at least accurate to some degree), but none of the claims made in the article (if you want to even call it that) cite original source material, or any source material for that matter, and "huppi.com" isn't something that I'd consider a credible or reliable source for any kind of information.

I could go ahead and research every claim made in the "article", but I'm not going to do that because a.) I don't have the time and b.) if you want me to read something and take you seriously I expect you to put in the leg work establishing some kind of credibility.

This thing has all the inherent credibility of something found via an unknown source on the Internet, which is to say, none.
 
It is exactly as I anticipated. You got nuttin'. No surprise there.
So let me get this straight. I am supposed to spend my time disproving every claim you and the CT crackpots dream up. No I don't think so. You make the claim you need to back it up. That's how these things work.
 
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