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Jeb or Hillary for president in 2016?

Jeb or Hillary for president in 2016?

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If that is the choice Jeb for sure. Hillary is too old, too corrupt, and too shrill. Plus she'd appoint more man hating lefty lesbians to the supreme court which is not what the country needs right now
 
Navy Pride said:
Well it looks like they are both running and if they both get t heir party's nomination who do you vote for?
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One of Hillary's biggest assets is her name, OTOH one of Jeb's biggest problems is his name.

If he could hide his brother good enough he might win, but American voters aren't going to forget what the G.W. Bush mis-administration did to the USA.
 
Jeb Bush's background?

He was born rich - oil - and went to UT Austin gaining a bachelor's degree in Latin studies. That is he total level of education. From there, his money got him into banking.

He moved to Florida, and the money and influence of his family got him appointed Secretary of Commerce - having no credentials for it whatsoever.

He quit after a couple of years to be a paid staffer in George W. Bush's campaign in 1988. He ran for Governor of Florida in 1994 - and lost.

With the vast boom of old folks rushing to Florida and bringing their money with him, he won the next time, then was re-elected again. As governor, he turned the schools over to federal control, essentially turned Miami into an immigrant safe-haven, pursued environmental topics and eliminated some business taxes. He blocked high speed rail along the East Coast into Florida. Money was pouring in to Florida with the influx of retirees moving here and the state budget was good.

He is most known for the Terry Schiavo matter. The Terri Schiavo case involving a woman with massive brain damage, who was on a feeding tube for over 15 years, and whose husband and legal guardian, Michael Schiavo, wished to remove the tube. 5 medical experts said her brain was dead and gone, her body rotting away. The court ruled the husband had the decision noting 15 years had passed.

Sean Hannity of FOX went on the warpath every day. After the Court ruling, Jeb Bush got "Terri's Law" passed by the Florida legislature - someone comparing it to the abortion topic, AKA "JEB BUSH IS THE GOD OVER LIFE AND DEATH law." The State Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional. The autopsy showed that Bush's one expert was a liar, Shiavo's brain was literally over half gone having dissolved away, her bones dissolving.

After 2 terms it was over for Jeb as governor. So he was back to living on his money.

He will run for president and the powers-that-be will do all they can to get him the nomination. This assures they can not lose the general election regardless of who wins. While his running all but assures a Republican defeat, what does he care? The campaign will set him up perfectly for a run for the US Senate for which then he'd be a shoe-in.

Every conservative commentator has blasts Jeb Bush for years, but money talks.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
I like Jon Huntsman a lot. I made a contribution to his campaign back in 2012 as soon as he announced he was running. I think a Jon Huntsman presidency with a Democratic controlled senate and a Republican house would be the best thing for this country in 2016. However, the problem Jon Huntsman has is that while he is solidly fiscally conservative, he is moderate in his tone, not a bomb thrower, doesn't get into culture wars, and frankly is just not near crazy enough for today's Republican Primary base, thus he has little chance of ever winning the nomination.
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The only problem with your scenario he has zero chance of winning the nomination.
 
shrubnose said:
One of Hillary's biggest assets is her name, OTOH one of Jeb's biggest problems is his name.

If he could hide his brother good enough he might win, but American voters aren't going to forget what the G.W. Bush mis-administration did to the USA.
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Are you really serious?
 
Navy Pride said:
Well it looks like they are both running and if they both get t heir party's nomination who do you vote for?

Screwed up on the poll question......To much Christmas punch..........Can any Mod help and make the correction?


Thank you
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Neither. Its like asking "do you want me to kick you in the testicles with my right or left foot?" Hopefully the republicans are not smashed in the head with a brick retarded enough to prop up another RINO. I might be tempted to say "well since republicans want us to vote for a lib since they keep propping up RINOs then maybe I should vote for a lib" and vote for Clinton.When the republicans propped up that piece of **** RINO McCain I left that part of the ballot blank and voted in the other races and ballot issues on that ballot. When the republicans propped up Mitt Romney who is such a flip flopper he made John Kerry look like he was adamant about his views I did the same thing. However this time I feel I should send a clear message to the republicans that if they keep propping up liberals then I am going to vote for liberals but it won't be the liberals they want me to vote for.
 
By some God forsaken reason these two end up to be the choices, my vote will be a write-in for Mickey Mouse. I'm not going to hold my nose again and vote.
 
vesper said:
By some God forsaken reason these two end up to be the choices, my vote will be a write-in for Mickey Mouse. I'm not going to hold my nose again and vote.
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Mickey could win this thing.
Successful career.
He's been a household name for decades.
Despite his immense size, he has convinced people he's not a rat.....no other contender can make a convincing non-rat claim.
We could do a lot worse than Mickey Mouse.;)
 
vesper said:
By some God forsaken reason these two end up to be the choices, my vote will be a write-in for Mickey Mouse. I'm not going to hold my nose again and vote.
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If Mickey was on the ballot, he'd sure get the vast majority of the left wing vote. They've let Hollywood lead them by the nose for decades.
 
CanadaJohn said:
If Mickey was on the ballot, he'd sure get the vast majority of the left wing vote. They've let Hollywood lead them by the nose for decades.
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Yes they have just like a good number on the right has let the Chamber of Commerce lead them by the nose. Hollywood and the Chamber of Commerce both seem to have a lot of money politicians just love.
 
CanadaJohn said:
If Mickey was on the ballot, he'd sure get the vast majority of the left wing vote. They've let Hollywood lead them by the nose for decades.
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I see you've gone full hack in this thread.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
I like Jon Huntsman a lot. I made a contribution to his campaign back in 2012 as soon as he announced he was running. I think a Jon Huntsman presidency with a Democratic controlled senate and a Republican house would be the best thing for this country in 2016. However, the problem Jon Huntsman has is that while he is solidly fiscally conservative, he is moderate in his tone, not a bomb thrower, doesn't get into culture wars, and frankly is just not near crazy enough for today's Republican Primary base, thus he has little chance of ever winning the nomination.
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You are 100% correct on all of this SD!

I worked on his campaign here in the NH primaries in 2012. Met the man a few times. Studied him thoroughly. In my mind, he was everything a President should be and you did a great job of detailing it. It infuriated me that the establishment didn't support him. He bring exceptional foreign policy experience, executive experience, a clear rational head, the ability to work across the aisle, and he's fiscally conservative. My dream man.

I don't think he's going to run again which is too bad. Especially when you look at this thread and think about a choice between the Clinton dynasty and the Bush dynasty. Ugh.
 
vesper said:
Yes they have just like a good number on the right has let the Chamber of Commerce lead them by the nose. Hollywood and the Chamber of Commerce both seem to have a lot of money politicians just love.
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At least the COC adds value to peoples' lives and the economy. Hollywood, not so much.
 
tres borrachos said:
At least the COC adds value to peoples' lives and the economy. Hollywood, not so much.
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Morning Tres. Sorry I disagree. The harm cheap labor being dumped on the country does to the millions of unemployed Americans does not add "value to peoples' lives" which is exactly what the Chamber of Commerce has done in spending millions to persuade Congress to do. The Chamber of Commerce is part of the reason we do not have a fence yet built on the southern border. I don't see allowing thousands to cross our borders each year, burdening the taxpayers with multiple expenses that result from such activity adds any "value" to the lives of citizens.....on the contrary harms them greatly.
 
vesper said:
Morning Tres. Sorry I disagree. The harm cheap labor being dumped on the country does to the millions of unemployed Americans does not add "value to peoples' lives" which is exactly what the Chamber of Commerce has done in spending millions to persuade Congress to do. The Chamber of Commerce is part of the reason we do not have a fence yet built on the southern border. I don't see allowing thousands to cross our borders each year, burdening the taxpayers with multiple expenses that result from such activity adds any "value" to the lives of citizens.....on the contrary harms them greatly.
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It's okay to disagree. I don't "love" the Chamber by any means. Some of what they do/stand for is good. Others, not so much.

I was simply comparing them to Hollywood.
 
In other news: Yesterday, November 5, 2016, the American voter turnout at the polls set an all time record low for ballots cast. Only 0.03% of the voting age citizens turned out to cast a vote.

Jeb Bush was elected to be the nation's 45th President with 0.02% of the vote. The new first lady in waiting has already taken up the challenge of immigration. The day after the inauguration, all Hispanic peoples of the world will automatically become American citizens.

When asked about the new immigration policy, she stated that America is lacking in culture. This plan is going to bring culture to the USA.
 
Navy Pride said:
Well it looks like they are both running and if they both get t heir party's nomination who do you vote for?

Screwed up on the poll question......To much Christmas punch..........Can any Mod help and make the correction?


Thank you
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Do we really need retreads?
 
Bush vs Clinton?

I'd likely go third party, but I'd be more likely to go Jeb than Clinton
 
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Navy Pride said:
Well it looks like they are both running and if they both get t heir party's nomination who do you vote for?Screwed up on the poll question......To much Christmas punch..........Can any Mod help and make the correction?Thank you
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The options you have chosen are likely to manifest in reality and provide the greatest boost to third party candidacy in history. There is hope. Third Party irregardless. Of Course, I'm a Green so it is not much of a stretch fo me. In truth, I would like to see Elizaeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.
 
jamesrage said:
Neither. Its like asking "do you want me to kick you in the testicles with my right or left foot?" Hopefully the republicans are not smashed in the head with a brick retarded enough to prop up another RINO. I might be tempted to say "well since republicans want us to vote for a lib since they keep propping up RINOs then maybe I should vote for a lib" and vote for Clinton.When the republicans propped up that piece of **** RINO McCain I left that part of the ballot blank and voted in the other races and ballot issues on that ballot. When the republicans propped up Mitt Romney who is such a flip flopper he made John Kerry look like he was adamant about his views I did the same thing. However this time I feel I should send a clear message to the republicans that if they keep propping up liberals then I am going to vote for liberals but it won't be the liberals they want me to vote for.
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Now your talking. Bring it on. We can't wait for Ted Cruz to hit the ballot and start his campaign toward another presidential election trivia question.
 
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