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    Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Indeed the punishment for producing it is mandatory 15 years in the Pen and the minimum for possession for just one picture is 5 years.

    Any violation of federal child pornography law is a serious crime, and convicted offenders face severe statutory penalties. For example, a first time offender convicted of producing child pornography under 18 U.S.C. 2251, face fines and a statutory minimum of 15 years to 30 years maximum in prison. A first time offender convicted of transporting child pornography in interstate or foreign commerce under 18 U.S.C. 2252, faces fines and a statutory minimum of 5 years to 20 years maximum in prison. Convicted offenders may face harsher penalties if the offender has prior convictions or if the child pornography offense occurred in aggravated situations defined as (i) the images are violent, sadistic, or masochistic in nature, (ii) the minor was sexually abused, or (iii) the offender has prior convictions for child sexual exploitation. In these circumstances, a convicted offender may face up to life imprisonment.
    It is important to note that an offender can be prosecuted under state child pornography laws in addition to, or instead of, federal law.

    USDOJ: CRM: Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section


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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Not in America. We're not better than that, in fact. I think we should start waterboarding, and perform rectal feedings on known pedophiles and sexual predators if it means they can give up information to other known sexual predators and arrest them. National Security amirite?

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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Yeah, I'd say so. We should probably focus more on the creation than the distribution. Obviously, distribution creates demand, so to an extent we'd have to discourage distribution, but generally I can't see distribution and possession being as high as it is. I'd at least like to see the mandatory minimums lowered, since not every case is some old 60 something guy looking at a 4 year old girl. Could be as simple as 20 looking at like 17, which, really, doesn't warrant a decade or more in jail. Or, worse, teenagers being busted for pics of other teenagers, which has happened. So there should be a little wiggle room for individual judgement IMO.

    With that being said, however, if you find some old guy exploiting a little girl for cash, throw the whole damn book at him.
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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Indeed the punishment for producing it is mandatory 15 years in the Pen and the minimum for possession for just one picture is 5 years.
    Don't be funny. That would be worse than enhanced interrogation.

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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    "Other." We have a bigger issue to consider here on the handling of Child Pornography, Pedophilia, Abuse, etc. It is too simple to say that No, prison terms for these crimes do not constitute cruel and unusual punishment. Sure, they can be updated to reflect reality but at the end of the day we also have to protect kids.

    Child exploitation, as defined by our laws, in any sense has an inherent public danger tag to it but something we need to consider is importance of handling these crimes in conjunction with handling other crimes that seem to get more attention. In that sense we would not need a "Sex Offender Registry" laws if we could hold those that violate these laws to much longer sentences. Our issue is prison capability, and since we overwhelmingly fill them up with often non-violent and also often victim-less crimes such as the War on Drugs produces we have less room for those that are willing to harm kids. That is a real problem. We could actually be tougher on those that harm kids if we were not so wrapped up in other aspects of social control.
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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Indeed the punishment for producing it is mandatory 15 years in the Pen and the minimum for possession for just one picture is 5 years.
    Isn't the legal age of consent 16 in Nevada?

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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Indeed the punishment for producing it is mandatory 15 years in the Pen and the minimum for possession for just one picture is 5 years.
    It is not equivalent to torture, but it is hefty for something that is not necessarily harmful to anyone and can save the life of the children.

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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Dunno...depends on the situation.

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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    It is not to cruel, they deserve the time for what they didm chikd explotation and pornography is one of the sickest crimes possible in my mind.

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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Anything that involves children is absolute abhorrent and needs to be punished harshly. These vicious cycles of abuse start with what happens to kids as they are growing up, so any abuse can't be tolerated.

    That being said, I think it's important for us to research the topic and find out how to treat these people.
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