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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Nice deflection.
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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    And I'm making a stipulation to those laws and the punishment for breaking them. Picture or videos of sodomy on a 5 year old is something quite different than pictures and videos of a 16 year old who lies about her age.

    If you are caught with the former then the punishment fits the crime, IMHO.

    I don't know if that is how it works though. Seems like based on the news I hear: Teacher caught with 4 child porn pictures gets 20 years; man who brutally beats an elderly woman gets 10 years. I go back and forth in whether I think the system is too sensitive to some crimes while too desensitized to others. I don't know where the balance should be, but it does sometimes seem too out of balance.

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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I never veered from my first post.
    You were making a stipulation that has no bearing.

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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    OH, I am sure we can find some one.
    From what I've heard, other prisoners are more than happy to step in and make their lives hell.


    As for the punishment I think as long as child porn is defined correctly and logically, as others pointed out not teenagers together, I have no problem with mandatory punishment. I might even say if you are a relative or guardian of the child you get double sentence.
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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    While I am for very stringent punishment of those who would have possession of child pornography, I must give pause to the worry that it creates as well.

    We had a pretty big case here in Dallas where an informant and a couple of officers were arresting people for possession of plastic wrapped bricks of powdered sheet rock that they were planting on the accused.

    I would hate to see (as I would also hate to give them the idea) a group of people getting arrested for kiddie porn on their computers that a hacker uploaded to them in the middle of the night.

    The porn would be hard evidence. How would you prove that someone else placed it there unbeknown to the computer owner?

    You couldn't, and you would be at the mercy of the prison population for many years for a crime that you did not do.
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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    From what I've heard, other prisoners are more than happy to step in and make their lives hell.


    As for the punishment I think as long as child porn is defined correctly and logically, as others pointed out not teenagers together, I have no problem with mandatory punishment. I might even say if you are a relative or guardian of the child you get double sentence.
    I don't think mandatory punishments are a good thing. We have judge and jury and they can ruke according to the specifics of a case. Thats how it should be. Perhaps guidelines, but nothing that essentially bypasses the judge.
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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't think mandatory punishments are a good thing. We have judge and jury and they can ruke according to the specifics of a case. Thats how it should be. Perhaps guidelines, but nothing that essentially bypasses the judge.
    True, I would prefer those cases be decided by a jury. I've seen more than a few offenders be let go on smaller charges because of a judge's own views on rape or sexual assault. Or hell even the judge here who gave a guy probation because he was too short for prison.
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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    An old fella here - in his 60s - was given 20 years for looking at kiddie porn online.
    My impression is the average federal sentence for first time offenders for merely viewing child pornography is about 5 years. State punishments (Arizona aside) are usually slightly less. There is a distinct possibility that the "old fella" had prior sex offenses when he as a "young fella"- and the court finally had enough of the fella.

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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    My impression is the average federal sentence for first time offenders for merely viewing child pornography is about 5 years. State punishments (Arizona aside) are usually slightly less. There is a distinct possibility that the "old fella" had prior sex offenses when he as a "young fella"- and the court finally had enough of the fella.
    Florida. No priors. He decided to not have an attorney. His minister turned him in finding a thumb drive with kiddie porn. No sex in them, pictures of naked little girls.

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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Florida. No priors. He decided to not have an attorney. His minister turned him in finding a thumb drive with kiddie porn. No sex in them, pictures of naked little girls.
    Good, nipped in the bud.

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