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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Yeah, I'd say so. We should probably focus more on the creation than the distribution. Obviously, distribution creates demand, so to an extent we'd have to discourage distribution, but generally I can't see distribution and possession being as high as it is. I'd at least like to see the mandatory minimums lowered, since not every case is some old 60 something guy looking at a 4 year old girl. Could be as simple as 20 looking at like 17, which, really, doesn't warrant a decade or more in jail. Or, worse, teenagers being busted for pics of other teenagers, which has happened. So there should be a little wiggle room for individual judgement IMO.

    With that being said, however, if you find some old guy exploiting a little girl for cash, throw the whole damn book at him.


    Unfortunately that becomes almost impossible with the internet. A producer can create material, post it for followers, have it distributed around the world, copied and sent again before the cops even know it's there.

    The only way to find it is to track known offenders and nail them for possession.

    It is one crime for which I would hold an exception on capital punishment, failing that castrate the bastards in prison for life in general population.
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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Yeah, I'd say so. We should probably focus more on the creation than the distribution. Obviously, distribution creates demand, so to an extent we'd have to discourage distribution, but generally I can't see distribution and possession being as high as it is. I'd at least like to see the mandatory minimums lowered, since not every case is some old 60 something guy looking at a 4 year old girl. Could be as simple as 20 looking at like 17, which, really, doesn't warrant a decade or more in jail. Or, worse, teenagers being busted for pics of other teenagers, which has happened. So there should be a little wiggle room for individual judgement IMO.

    With that being said, however, if you find some old guy exploiting a little girl for cash, throw the whole damn book at him.
    You think "old" perverts just pop into existence? How much do you want to bet that old perverts started out as young perverts?

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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Child porn should be punished by a severe beating from a parent whos child had been subjected then a long jail stint followed by a bullet to the head.

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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    One thing I don't like is that these laws can be blanketed to be able to punish people who didn't even know they were committing a crime(didn't know the person in the porn was below 18) or they are 16 themselves and are just sexually interacting with people of their own age. A 15 or year old taking nudes pictures of themselves and sending it to people should not be charged for distributing child porn and being a sex offender...that's too harsh. Same with boys of that age receiving those pictures.

    it's a problem, but they are not adults and it's natural for people that age discovering their sexuality...

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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Unfortunately that becomes almost impossible with the internet. A producer can create material, post it for followers, have it distributed around the world, copied and sent again before the cops even know it's there.
    That's why you track IPs.

    The only way to find it is to track known offenders and nail them for possession.
    I never said I was against the ban on child porn possession.

    It is one crime for which I would hold an exception on capital punishment
    Killing them solves what exactly?

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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    I agree that there are some fuzzy areas that should probably be addressed, I'd rather see a law whereby adults cannot look at children less than 5 years different from them in age. That lets an 18 year old look at his 17 year old girlfriend but it doesn't allow a 35 year old to do it at all. I think anyone looking at anyone under the age of 12 ought to just go to prison, period.
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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Child porn should be punished by a severe beating from a parent whos child had been subjected then a long jail stint followed by a bullet to the head.
    So much for the cruel and unusual punishment bit... but I get the sentiment.
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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Indeed the punishment for producing it is mandatory 15 years in the Pen and the minimum for possession for just one picture is 5 years.
    This quote says it's 5 years for transporting in interstate or foreign commerce. Not just for possession. Am I misunderstanding something? What's wrong with that?

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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    This quote says it's 5 years for transporting in interstate or foreign commerce. Not just for possession. Am I misunderstanding something? What's wrong with that?
    You need to read the link I provided.


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    Re: Is The Punishment For Child Porn Cruel and Unusual Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Child porn should be punished by a severe beating from a parent whos child had been subjected then a long jail stint followed by a bullet to the head.
    What if the child is subjected to abuse by the parent/family member? Not all that rare. What then? Same thing?

    Two parents charged with raping baby during supervised visit - 21 News Now, More Local News for Youngstown, Ohio -

    Two parents are charged with raping their own baby, and authorities say it happened at what was supposed to be a supervised visit at Trumbull County Children's Services.

    Twenty-one-year-old Felecia Beemer of Warren cried as she appeared in Warren Municipal Court accused of raping her 13-month-old little girl. A baby who was taken away from her immediately after she was born.
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    The 39-year-old from Deception Bay, north of Brisbane, pleaded guilty in the Brisbane District Court to maintaining an unlawful sexual relationship with his biological daughter from shortly after her fourth birthday in October, 2011 until she turned six in January.

    He also pleaded guilty to raping her twice in his bedroom on January 23 this year.

    Judge Michael Burnett jailed the man for 13 years, adding the girl would suffer the emotional trauma of her father’s abuse for her whole life.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/incoming/mot...n-rape-3160815

    Feb 19, 2014 08:24 By Cathal McMahon

    The mother, who cannot be named, is alleged to have let different men sexually abuse her daughter when she was aged between four and nine

    A mum has been arrested over claims she allowed her young daughter to be raped by a gang of men from the age of four.

    The girl, who is now 10, told detectives that she was repeatedly sexually abused over a five-year period by different men, leading to the arrests of seven people.

    Seven people were arrested last week over the alleged abuse of the 10-year-old, whose parents are Lithuanian.
    What then? Orphan the child? Let the state take care of them? Drop em off with relatives who don't want them? What other medieval solutions do you have in mind?
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