View Poll Results: Should visitors to our country be afforded Constitutional protections?

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  • Yes, everybody should have Constitutional protections.

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  • Only citizens and legal visitors should have Constitutional protections.

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  • No, no visitors should have Constitutional protections. Only citizens.

    2 8.70%
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    Should visitors to our country be afforded Constitutional protections?

    Should visitors to our country be afforded Constitutional protections?

    "Visitors" means anybody here that is not a citizen. Can be legal with a visa or work permit, for example. Can be illegal.

    Please note that for the purposes of this poll and question, the current status is completely irrelevant. Imagine yourself writing the Constitution from scratch and this is the last item that you need to address before it is put into play.
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    Re: Should visitors to our country be afforded Constitutional protections?

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    Re: Should visitors to our country be afforded Constitutional protections?

    You would need a new constitution for constitutional protections not to apply to visitors to our country. The constitution (with a few exceptions) does not specifically apply to citizens. It applies to anyone on U.S. soil. For example, if you are a U.S. citizen and travel to China, even though you have a constitutional right to freedom of expression, that right only applies when you are here. Similarly, if a Chinese national travels to the United States, even though they have restrictions on their freedom of expression in China, on U.S. soil, they have the same right to free speech as anyone else does.
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    Re: Should visitors to our country be afforded Constitutional protections?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should visitors to our country be afforded Constitutional protections?

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    No, they should be water boarded immediately.
    Preferably, in the shadow of the Statue of Liberty.
    They may be concealing important info on terrorist plots.
    You can't be too careful.
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    Re: Should visitors to our country be afforded Constitutional protections?

    It's not really a matter of should they be afforded those rights, but should they be revoked. The constitution applies to all people on US soil. Just a fact. And, IMO, that is the way it should be.

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    Re: Should visitors to our country be afforded Constitutional protections?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You would need a new constitution for constitutional protections not to apply to visitors to our country. The constitution (with a few exceptions) does not specifically apply to citizens. It applies to anyone on U.S. soil. For example, if you are a U.S. citizen and travel to China, even though you have a constitutional right to freedom of expression, that right only applies when you are here. Similarly, if a Chinese national travels to the United States, even though they have restrictions on their freedom of expression in China, on U.S. soil, they have the same right to free speech as anyone else does.
    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    It's not really a matter of should they be afforded those rights, but should they be revoked. The constitution applies to all people on US soil. Just a fact. And, IMO, that is the way it should be.
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    Re: Should visitors to our country be afforded Constitutional protections?

    As a legal permanent resident (but not citizen) I'd be pretty peeved if I wasn't afforded rights to freedom of speech, or of religion.
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    Re: Should visitors to our country be afforded Constitutional protections?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should visitors to our country be afforded Constitutional protections?

    "Visitors" means anybody here that is not a citizen. Can be legal with a visa or work permit, for example. Can be illegal.

    Please note that for the purposes of this poll and question, the current status is completely irrelevant. Imagine yourself writing the Constitution from scratch and this is the last item that you need to address before it is put into play.
    I think we would have to go through the constitution and decide which protection we should afford different categories of foreigners.

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    Re: Should visitors to our country be afforded Constitutional protections?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should visitors to our country be afforded Constitutional protections?

    "Visitors" means anybody here that is not a citizen. Can be legal with a visa or work permit, for example. Can be illegal.

    Please note that for the purposes of this poll and question, the current status is completely irrelevant. Imagine yourself writing the Constitution from scratch and this is the last item that you need to address before it is put into play.
    The Constitution as written is designed to limit the government. Not the people. If looked at correctly everyone in the entire world, no matter location, is afforded our Constitutional protections...and the key part here...FROM our Government. This is not to say that their own governments can't use their own power because some how ours mythically over rides theirs. It doesn't. It only applies to OUR government.

    So yes, everyone is and should be afforded our Constitutional protections.

    However, when translated into reality...this just doesn't happen. It should. But it doesn't.
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    Re: Should visitors to our country be afforded Constitutional protections?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should visitors to our country be afforded Constitutional protections?

    "Visitors" means anybody here that is not a citizen. Can be legal with a visa or work permit, for example. Can be illegal.

    Please note that for the purposes of this poll and question, the current status is completely irrelevant. Imagine yourself writing the Constitution from scratch and this is the last item that you need to address before it is put into play.
    Absolutely, imagine the consequences if we did not.
    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people." - Penn Jillette.

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