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    Re: Does The U.S. Constitution prohibit torture?

    Seems like the wrong question since the question addressed by the Justice Department on this was whether the EIT were legally torture. Based on the lawyers, everyone moved ahead on the basis that what they were doing was legal.
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    Re: Does The U.S. Constitution prohibit torture?

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    Of course it does. why do you ask?

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    Re: Does The U.S. Constitution prohibit torture?

    Scalia says the Constitution doesn't prohibit it. He knows more about the document than I do. So I'll go with him on this one.
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    Re: Does The U.S. Constitution prohibit torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Of course it does. why do you ask?
    see below.
    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Scalia says the Constitution doesn't prohibit it. He knows more about the document than I do. So I'll go with him on this one.
    That's what prompted my question:

    Scalia: Nothing In The Constitution Prohibits Torture

    What about the 8th Amendment - cruel and unusual punishment?


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    Re: Does The U.S. Constitution prohibit torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    see below.


    That's what prompted my question:

    Scalia: Nothing In The Constitution Prohibits Torture

    What about the 8th Amendment - cruel and unusual punishment?
    I don't know. Not a scholar. I'll defer to Scalia.
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    Re: Does The U.S. Constitution prohibit torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    see below.


    That's what prompted my question:

    Scalia: Nothing In The Constitution Prohibits Torture

    What about the 8th Amendment - cruel and unusual punishment?
    It destroys our entire constitution people are innocent until proven guilty. Torture happens before any court case even said the person was guilty besides the 8th amendment

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    Re: Does The U.S. Constitution prohibit torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Scalia says the Constitution doesn't prohibit it. He knows more about the document than I do. So I'll go with him on this one.
    Sorry, that made me chuckle.

    Ok, he may actually know more about it than you (and me, too), in a scholarly and/or technical sense, but he is also is one of the worst at playing fast-and-loose with interpretations. Anytime he says anything regarding the Constitution I'm skeptical.
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    Re: Does The U.S. Constitution prohibit torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    What about the 8th Amendment - cruel and unusual punishment?
    That's why I believe it is prohibited by the Constitution, cruel and unusual punishment. Do we really need to attach a thesaurus to the document? Sheesh.
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    Re: Does The U.S. Constitution prohibit torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Sorry, that made me chuckle.

    Ok, he may actually know more about it than you (and me, too), in a scholarly and/or technical sense, but he is also is one of the worst at playing fast-and-loose with interpretations. Anytime he says anything regarding the Constitution I'm skeptical.
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