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  • It will financially collapse

    10 18.87%
  • It will financially develop

    12 22.64%
  • a more conservative policy will dominate the country

    7 13.21%
  • a more socialistic movement will influence the country

    14 26.42%
  • It will go into world war 3

    5 9.43%
  • l dont know

    12 22.64%
  • political polarizations will cause many of these

    11 20.75%
  • other

    21 39.62%
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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    We will be fine as a country. Even today when we complain about a slow economic recovery, we are leading the entire G20 in terms of economic performance since the financial crisis and recession. Despite our polarization, we are a very ingenuitive and hard working country. We were 50 years ago, we are today, and we will be 50 years from now.
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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Demographic changes say the country will increasingly become socialistic. To collapse of domestic manufacturing and product will cause the economy to continue to decline, for which the way to try to manage this will be increasing inflation - the invisible tax. Inflation also reduces the value of the national debt.

    The real question is not whether there will be economic decline, but can the decline be a managed decline avoiding a sudden crash?

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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    ...We watched Zimbabwe go bankrupt a few years ago, and we wondered how such a thing could happen. Their currency was devalued to nearly $18,000 per every US dollar, and the last I read, they were issuing currency in the hundreds of thousands of dollars for every US dollar, due to inflation. Unbelievable! Is this insanity in our future?
    Nope. I don't see our government confiscating private farms or our production dropping to near zero. Why would such a thing happen?

    Every single instance of hyperinflation that has ever existed happend in a country which had it's production shut down. Think about it, inflation is caused not by too much money (have you ever had "too much money"?), but by a lack of sufficient goods to meet demand. Our production of goods and services is increasing, not decreasing.

    Seriously, how can you compare Zimbabwe to the US?
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    We observe that there is real value, we depend on no promise. When I know that I can use my US dollars to pay my electric bill, then I know that my dollars have value. I don't have to be promised anything, I witness their value every day. And that's all that I need to know to be willing to accept more US dollars in exchange for my labor. As long as people are willing to accept it in trade, then no promises are needed, and it doesn't have to be backed by anything other than my knowledge that we can use it in trade.

    The US dollar has been used in our economy every day since it was invented, that's a heck of a lot of practice. It's not like we just made up dollars yesterday and they are unproven as a unit of money that can be exchanged in trade and used as an unit of measure for accounting purposes.
    You mean the federal reserve note not the u.s. Dollar

    This is the conception of a person who doesn't understand economics and is willingly allowing himself to be conquered by foreign bankers because he is refusing to understand monetary policy

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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I see us moving more toward mediocrity, self-indulgence, and collective insanity. I suspect that we will eventually have a slow decline, hit bottom, then bounce back through much pain and hard work. We have the best and the worst of everything.
    I would beg to differ.

    I believe our future is hinged upon our attractiveness to people around the world. IOW, do people want to immigrate here or not?

    America is the only nation in the world with this much diversity. Diversity is good, it allows us to see more than one perspective to something, more than one answer, to blend, mix, and most importantly, INNOVATE!

    We have incredible rights here, and despite the talks of the pessimists because one guy gets choked for being black, we are still one of the most free nations in the world. We do not censor the internet or protests, and with the great impetus we are seeing for things like gay marriage rights and such America is bound to become an even freer nation for anyone who decides to come.

    Immigration is key, and America is still the place to immigrate to, if that changes, only then will I have conceded any points I made on these kinds of topics, only then will America truly be lost.

    As I've said before, if you look at any great American innovator, leader, etc. you'll notice one thing is always constant. Whether it was they themselves or their parents or grandparents, they were immigrants looking for a better life.

    We may attract some of the bad, and the fools will focus on only that. But we also attract the very best in the world. Look at Steve Jobs, his father was Syrian. Look at Einstein, he was a European immigrant. Or for the arts/literature, look at Joseph Pulitzer, a Jewish immigrant.

    It may sound cliche, but we are indeed a nation built on immigrants. And our sustained sustenance is the exact same thing that built us in the first place. I believe that to be a truth.
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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    You mean the federal reserve note not the u.s. Dollar

    This is the conception of a person who doesn't understand economics and is willingly allowing himself to be conquered by foreign bankers because he is refusing to understand monetary policy
    Semantics.

    My father worked in GE audit staff, one of the most prestigious programs dealing with economics/finance in the world and then traveled all across the world dealing with multi-million dollar deals. He's also an investor (of course).

    Are you going to say he has no clue about economics because quite frankly, he says "U.S. dollar" as well.

    Quit the semantics, only a fool will play that card.
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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Demographic changes say the country will increasingly become socialistic.
    That's possible, and changes in the workplace (less need for human labor) will contribute to that also.


    To collapse of domestic manufacturing and product will cause the economy to continue to decline
    I can't see that happening at all. It isn't happening now, and hasn't happened at any time in the existance of the USA. We are manufacturing more and more, but we are doing it with fewer and fewer workers. That doesn't represent a collapse of domestic manufacturing, it represents a change in the workplace.

    , for which the way to try to manage this will be increasing inflation - the invisible tax.
    Inflation has been quite low during most of my lifetime, and when it was really high (the Carter and early Reagan years), it was driven by huge increases in the price of oil. We are now seeing lower oil prices, and we are discovering how to extract energy in abundance, so I don't see inflation as being much of a threat anytime soon.

    The real question is not whether there will be economic decline, but can the decline be a managed decline avoiding a sudden crash?
    There is no reason we would have a decline at all, other than the occasional recession that has always existed. We decide our own economic fate as a society.
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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    You mean the federal reserve note not the u.s. Dollar...
    That's a semantic argument that means nothing, and only evidences that you have bought into some sort of tea party conspiracy story. Our money is our money, there is no difference between the federal reserve note and the US dollar. They are one and the same.
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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Semantics.

    My father worked in GE audit staff, one of the most prestigious programs dealing with economics/finance in the world and then traveled all across the world dealing with multi-million dollar deals. He's also an investor (of course).

    Are you going to say he has no clue about economics because quite frankly, he says "U.S. dollar" as well.

    Quit the semantics, only a fool will play that card.
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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    a "cold' civil war and eventual forced exit of states.

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