View Poll Results: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

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  • It will financially collapse

    10 18.87%
  • It will financially develop

    12 22.64%
  • a more conservative policy will dominate the country

    7 13.21%
  • a more socialistic movement will influence the country

    14 26.42%
  • It will go into world war 3

    5 9.43%
  • l dont know

    12 22.64%
  • political polarizations will cause many of these

    11 20.75%
  • other

    21 39.62%
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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Well I'm glad you've added such a rational economic response to what I was saying the negative effects of inflation is, then you added the rolling of the eyes like I have no idea what I'm talking about. Please explain to me the best way you can why he american economy will not collapse
    As long as we keep producing goods and services, our economy will not collapse. Of course that doesn't mean that our economy can't collapse, it certain could, if we stopped producing goods and services.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Nope.
    It's owned by the banks in the federal reserve system, and it has stock but it's considered a "non profit" system, it's in a sense a firm of banks monopolizing a single money supply idk how you don't understand this

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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Productivity in the USA continues to increase.
    ... Wow way to misquote my initial point. The research and development of certain technologies has been slowed down due to the faulty information we receive in market procedure due to the actual research and data falsities inflation creates in the market

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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Productivity in the USA continues to increase.
    Yup.

    And aside from some sort of huge natural disaster, or nuclear war, or all our wealth aggregating into the hands of a few, I can't come up with a scenario in which our productivity wouldn't continue to increase.

    People keep hollaring that "it's the federal debt", but I scarcely see how that effects the production of goods and services in the US. There's simply no connection.
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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    As long as we keep producing goods and services, our economy will not collapse. Of course that doesn't mean that our economy can't collapse, it certain could, if we stopped producing goods and services.
    To have an economy you need to have an organized method of resource distribution correct? If the value of the dollar inflates to a level where it is no longer valuable by any means on the world market, then there will be no actual point in working, because working will be waste. This is how an economy collapses. Then, when that happens, the banks will buy up the debt of the failed American economy this isn't that hard to understand

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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    It's owned by the banks in the federal reserve system, and it has stock but it's considered a "non profit" system, it's in a sense a firm of banks monopolizing a single money supply idk how you don't understand this
    The fed makes a lot of money. And they turn over those profits to the treasury.

    Now how many privately owned businesses turn over 100% of their profits to the treasury?

    Those stocks don't represent ownership and they can't be privately traded. It's just a requirment to form a bank.
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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother AJ View Post
    LOL, okay then. That must mean it can't happen!


    I'm not saying that it'll never happen, but I'm not going to start giving away all of my stuff right now.

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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    The fed makes a lot of money. And they turn over those profits to the treasury.

    Now how many privately owned businesses turn over 100% of their profits to the treasury?

    Those stocks don't represent ownership and they can't be privately traded. It's just a requirment to form a bank.
    * “The Federal Reserve’s income is derived primarily from the interest on U.S. government securities that it has acquired through open market operations. . . . After paying its expenses, the Federal Reserve turns the rest of its earnings over to the U.S. Treasury.”5

    From the federal reserve website. We don't know how much money they pay themselves because we've never audited them

    You have to buy in to the federal reserve system in order to be a bank, do you understand this? If you're a prominent banking owner you have to join the firm. Or the monopolized banking industry, the firm being the federal reserve system. It's not a business like you think it's a monopolized firm

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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    Well I'm glad you've added such a rational economic response to what I was saying the negative effects of inflation is, then you added the rolling of the eyes like I have no idea what I'm talking about.
    Please explain to me the best way you can why he american economy will not collapse


    The USA will survive because of its citizens hard work and its politicians BS.

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    Re: What do you think the future of the USA will be like ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertie76 View Post
    To have an economy you need to have an organized method of resource distribution correct?
    Yup.

    If the value of the dollar inflates to a level where it is no longer valuable by any means on the world market, then there will be no actual point in working, because working will be waste.
    I have to assume that you meant deflate", not inflate. Yes, if the dollar no longer had enough value to be accepted, then it would be valueless. If you have a legitmate concern that your dollars are valueless, you are more than welcome to send them to me. They aren't valueless to me, and as long as Walmart accepts them, then they have plenty enough value to me.

    This is how an economy collapses. Then, when that happens, the banks will buy up the debt of the failed American economy this isn't that hard to understand
    The part where you are basically insisting that hyperinflation is just around the corner. I've been hearing that ever since I was about 10 or 12 years old. It hasn't happened yet, and today is my 50th birthday.

    Fortunately, we have mechanisms in our system which prevent hyperinflation.

    If the simple loss of purchasing power over a period of time could collapse our economy, then why hasn't our economy already collapsed (the dollar has lost 98% of it's value during the past 100 years)?
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