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Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?


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I have a previous post in this thread that explicitly says my belief cannot be proved.

No sir, you have not. You only admitted your claim remember, claim couldn't be proven after you were asked to provide proof and fell short. Do you want to show us where you stated it was a belief though? Actually, you can't. You stated various times that A) she had benefited from her NA claims and B) that she did it for personal gain. At no point did you state it was a belief. However, if you could show us you did, that'd be a great start. :) However, I'm convinced you'll try and weasel yourself out of your statement. It doesn't really help you though as all it does is show you make claims without proof.
 
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No sir, you do not. You only admitted your claim remember, claim couldn't be proven after you were asked to provide proof and fell short. Do you want to show us where you stated it was a belief though? That'd be a great start. :)

It was always a belief.
 
It was always a belief.

Nope, you claimed you stated it was a belief in a previous post. Where is it? You stated no such thing up until pushed against the wall for making claims without proof. Hays, it's embarrassing to see you get destroyed like this. Quit while you're behind.
 
Nope, you claimed you stated it was a belief in a previous post. Where is it? You stated no such thing up until pushed against the wall for making claims without proof. Hays, it's embarrassing to see you get destroyed like this. Quit while you're behind.

It was plainly a belief from the start, labeled or not. I applied the label later because you had surprised me by failing to grasp the point.
 
I have native american blood. Am I lying and committing fraud every time I check the Cracker Ass White Boy Box?

:shrug: are you A) completely devoid of cracker ass white boy blood and B) seeking social or economic advantage by nonetheless claiming it?
 
Still don't understand that how a person deals with their ethnicity has no relation to integrity and Warren, Bordeau, Jindal etc are all examples of that? Are you being purposely obtuse?

Mia Love changed her last name because she got married. Her integrity for taking her husband's name, like the integrity of many millions of other women who have done the same thing, was never called into question by anyone. Except you.

Elizabeth Warren's choice of a last name isn't being discussed. It's her ancestry, which has no relation to Mia Love or any other woman taking her husband's last name when she gets married.

Pretty simple.
 
It was plainly a belief from the start, labeled or not. I applied the label later because you had surprised me by failing to grasp the point.

You still won't show us in what post you stated it was a belief? Keep it up Hays, the lies are getting more and more obvious. :lol:
 
:shrug: are you A) completely devoid of cracker ass white boy blood and B) seeking social or economic advantage by nonetheless claiming it?

No I am mostly cracker ass white blooded but probably not enough to appease the intake officer at the KKK recruitment center; and hell yeah I don't want people following me around the store thinking I am going to steal something as it makes getting a five finger discount harder.
 
Mia Love changed her last name because she got married.

Did she stop using her legal name because of that too? Again, you're failing to understand the point and it's painfully obvious now that you don't understand simple points. Whatever reason Mia Love used to change her name, the effect was distancing her from her ethnic name. However, that, like Warren claiming she was NA based on family lore, does not reflect on her actual integrity. Neither does Warren being proven right/wrong about her NA heritage. Why? Because these actions are normal for minorities/people who believe they have other heritages. Please stop it, you're getting really silly by repeating the same nonsense over and over again as if you're actually making a point.
 
I have native american blood. Am I lying and committing fraud every time I check the Cracker Ass White Boy Box?

Wheat crackers or saltines?
 
You still won't show us in what post you stated it was a belief? Keep it up Hays, the lies are getting more and more obvious. :lol:

#326. There are several earlier that disclaim any attempt to prove anything.
 
So far as I understand things, the point of contention here is whether Elizabeth Warren did or did not intentionally misrepresent her genetic ancestry on a job application.

Further, whether that misrepresentation did or did not lead to a job she might not otherwise have landed.

Why the hell are we talking about other people then?
 
#326. There are several earlier that disclaim any attempt to prove anything.

Still lying Hays? You got called on your lies and then finally admitted you had no proof after posting links to support the claims you made over and over again. It's getting funny watching you weasel your way out of your ridiculous claims.
 
So far as I understand things, the point of contention here is whether Elizabeth Warren did or did not intentionally misrepresent her genetic ancestry on a job application.

Further, whether that misrepresentation did or did not lead to a job she might not otherwise have landed.

Why the hell are we talking about other people then?

Because somehow this became about Mia Love's integrity because she took her husband's name when she married him.
 
Did she stop using her legal name because of that too? Again, you're failing to understand the point and it's painfully obvious now that you don't understand simple points. Whatever reason Mia Love used to change her name, the effect was distancing her from her ethnic name. However, that, like Warren claiming she was NA based on family lore, does not reflect on her actual integrity. Neither does Warren being proven right/wrong about her NA heritage. Why? Because these actions are normal for minorities/people who believe they have other heritages. Please stop it, you're getting really silly by repeating the same nonsense over and over again as if you're actually making a point.

Her legal name is Love. Just like my legal name is my husband's name, not my father's. I didn't legally change my name to hide my German ancestry. Mia Love didn't change her name to hide her ancestry either. She did it for the same reason most women do....it's what we do.

Which of course has nothing to do with Elizabeth Warren and her ancestry.
 
Her legal name is Love.

Her legal name is also Bordeau, she stopped using Bordeau and has ignored that her full name is Ludmya. Last time: This. Distances. Her. From. Her. Ethnic. Heritage. Do you not grasp that why she did it is irrelevant? The fact is that it is a decision which is based on her understanding/attachment to her ethnic identity. Likewise, Warren determining she was NA because of family lore is a sign of her attachment/understanding of her ethnic identity. Neither of those decisions call their integrity into question. This is hard for you to understand, I know.
 
Her legal name is also Bordeau, she stopped using Bordeau and has ignored that her full name is Ludmya. Last time: This. Distances. Her. From. Her. Ethnic. Heritage. Do you not grasp that why she did it is irrelevant? The fact is that it is a decision which is based on her understanding/attachment to her ethnic identity. Likewise, Warren determining she was NA because of family lore is a sign of her attachment/understanding of her ethnic identity. Neither of those decisions call their integrity into question. This is hard for you to understand, I know.

Why on earth would she want to distance herself from her ethnic heritage ?

Is she " racist " against Black folks ?

Or are you trying to imply Conservatives wouldn't support her had she not " Whited up " her name ?

Because that's a little racist too.
 
Her legal name is also Bordeau, she stopped using Bordeau and has ignored that her full name is Ludmya. Last time: This. Distances. Her. From. Her. Ethnic. Heritage. Do you not grasp that why she did it is irrelevant? The fact is that it is a decision which is based on her understanding/attachment to her ethnic identity. Likewise, Warren determining she was NA because of family lore is a sign of her attachment/understanding of her ethnic identity. Neither of those decisions call their integrity into question. This is hard for you to understand, I know.

Her nickname is Mia. She still uses Ludmya on legal documents. I also have a nickname and sign my full first name on legal documents. My legal last name is my husband's. I did the same thing she did. We both did the same thing most women do when they get married - take their husband's name legally. Her legal name is no longer Bordeau. My legal name is no longer my maiden name.

And it has nothing to do with distancing from ethnicity. It has to do with doing what most women do when they get married. And until today, I never knew of anyone questioning the integrity of a woman who takes her husband's name. Until you came along.

And of course it has nothing to do with the Elizabeth Warren issue that's being discussed. But since you're hung up on names, I wonder what you think about Elizabeth Warren legally using the name of a man she divorced 36 years ago, and still kept his name when she married her husband in 1981. Curious indeed.

But back to the topic of this thread. Elizabeth Warren may or may not have NA ancestry. It doesn't affect anything either way, does it?
 
Why on earth would she want to distance herself from her ethnic heritage ?

Is she " racist " against Black folks ?

Or are you trying to imply Conservatives wouldn't support her had she not " Whited up " her name ?

Because that's a little racist too.

He just thinks she took her husband's last name when she married him so she could hide from her blackness and be more white. You know, that's why all women take their husband's names - so we can pretend to be our husband's heritage. I was born German/Irish, but now I'm Swedish. It's pretty cool.
 
Why on earth would she want to distance herself from her ethnic heritage ?

For the same reason "Bobby" Jindal would. It allows one to better fit into a new society. It's not racist against one's own group. It's a normal reaction to being either raised in the US or being the first generation born in the US. You ever seen the Godfather? There is a reason Santino went by Sunny, Federico went by Fredo and Michael had no need for nicknames. Likewise, there are literally millions of people who keep nicknames because their names are hard to pronounce. Ludmya isn't a common name in Utah. It's not even a common name in NYC (where there is a substantially bigger Haitian population). Again, the ways immigrants and their children choose to use their names are decisions based on their understanding of ethnicity. Choosing to distance yourself from your ethnicity through names really isn't as a big a deal as you seem to make it. Millions of immigrants and their children do it. This does not mean anything in terms of their integrity anymore than believing you're NA because your family tells you so does.
 
He just thinks she took her husband's last name when she married him so she could hide from her blackness and be more white. You know, that's why all women take their husband's names - so we can pretend to be our husband's heritage. I was born German/Irish, but now I'm Swedish. It's pretty cool.

Making it up as you go? Please continue. It's fun to see you lose an argument and then just linger around as if you're making a point.
 

Still not getting the point and repeating your nonsense? Great. Here, I'll do it too:

Her legal name is also Bordeau, she stopped using Bordeau and has ignored that her full name is Ludmya. Last time: This. Distances. Her. From. Her. Ethnic. Heritage. Do you not grasp that why she did it is irrelevant? The fact is that it is a decision which is based on her understanding/attachment to her ethnic identity. Likewise, Warren determining she was NA because of family lore is a sign of her attachment/understanding of her ethnic identity. Neither of those decisions call their integrity into question. This is hard for you to understand, I know.
 
Making it up as you go? Please continue. It's fun to see you lose an argument and then just linger around as if you're making a point.

You're the one who keeps insisting she only took her husband's name when she got married to hide from her ethnicity, not me.

I didn't lose any argument, dear. You never had one. You're the only person I ever knew who thinks women take their husband's last names because we run from our ethnicity. And you did mention her seeking "whiteness" in an earlier post.

It's okay. Just own your words.
 
Still not getting the point and repeating your nonsense? Great. Here, I'll do it too:

Her legal name is Love. My legal name is the name my husband had when he married me. Now it's my legal name, too. It's what's on my social security card, drivers license, tax returns, house deed, and all that. Pretty cool how it works. I'm sadly still not Swedish though. You don't get to take your husband's ethnicity, too.

Of course, none of that has to do with Elizabeth Warren's ancestry.
 
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