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Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?


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Heh, lying or just plain wrong. Either way she benefitted from it. The university benefitted from it and are in the unwelcome position of having to explain why they gave false info on their own grant and application forms to the feds. At the very least, all the ways she benefitted from the falsehood, whether lie or just plain wrong, should have been neutralized. The feds should have been repaid by the university and she should have been required to reimburse the university as well as losing any degrees that were issued while she was using the lie or false info.
 
Wait you said if she believes it, she isn't deceiving or trying to deceive anyone.

Do you feel that same way about all politicians or any person - as long as he/she believes what he/she is saying is true, then there is no intent to deceive?


Absolutely, it doesn't matter who they are, Democrat, Republican or just anybody. If the object of the person is to deceive then its a lie. Or the person says something is true and does not really know if it was, that is also a lie even though it turns out he was correct.
 
Or lets get more accurate here, since from my understanding there were conflicting sources telling warren about her heritage.

Scenario

Last night, the White Sox beat the Yankees.

[Person A] is told by someone they trust a lot that the Yankees beat the White Sox. They're also told by someone they trust less that the White Sox beat the Yankees.

Since [Person A] holds significant trust in the person who told them the Yankees beat the white sox, they simply believe that one to be true and the other person to have just got the information wrong.

[Person A] then goes and tells someone else that the Yankees beat the White Sox.

Is [Person A] lying? Or were they simply wrong?

(I need to keep this little scenario in my back pocket for other instances of "[person] lied!" that comes up on these forums)

If [Person A] believes what he was told, then he is simply wrong. What he should have said is,"[Person B] told me the White Sox beat the Yankees." If a person repeats a lie, but doesn't know its a lie, that person is not a liar.
 
Then why'd you bring up the hypothetical about her being one? Why was it perfectly fine for you to muse how one set of people would act if she was consrevative, but you've got some kind of issue with me making a similar musing about a different set of people?



Really? I've not seen you say any such thing in this thread till just now. Glad you finally take a stance. So exactly what evidence do you have that Warren:

1. actively lied about being an indian
2. that she did it "in order to fraudulently recieve preferential treatment"

Elizabeth Warren Acknowledges Listing Herself As Native American To Harvard, Penn
 
I voted who cares. After Watergate, Iran Contra, and the lies about wmd's, I don't see how republicans can get upset over such a small issue like this.
 
Yes, I read that too, and the listing of her ancestry to the directives were mentioned in pretty much every other fact checker article. Neither of Zyphlin's points were covered by the article, however. How does the article answer that a)she lied about Native American ancestry and b)that this resulted in her gaining a desired position/money?

Post a link that proves she is part Indian.
 
Post a link that proves she is part Indian.

Zyphlin asked you for evidence that she lied about her ancestry, and you provided a source that does nothing of the kind.

Keep looking...
 
Zyphlin asked you for evidence that she lied about her ancestry, and you provided a source that does nothing of the kind.

Keep looking...

You can't post it, because no such evidence exists, except Warren's latest explanation, "my parents told me I'm part Indian".

Nice try at covering for the newest messiah.
 
You can't post it, because no such evidence exists, except Warren's latest explanation, "my parents told me I'm part Indian".

Nice try at covering for the newest messiah.

That was always her explanation. And an "Indian" is that person who lives in India. That's in Asia, by the way.

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Arguing about Warren's ethnicity. These are perilous times.
 
Well she claimed she was American Indian on job applications to Universities she taught at.

actually the one ancestor that could be found from that period was a militia officer who was beating the Indians on their march on the trail of tears

which is why we call her Lieyawatha or Fauxchontas.

You also wonder how some one with a Rutgers law degree got a tenured position at Harvard
 
Do you care if she lied about it, meaning that she was falsely seeking racial advantage, harming the credibility of the system of affirmative action while also presumably denying a spot to the next actual minority in line, for her own professional and financial benefit?



I thought these days everyone was whatever race they self-identified as.


Just like we're whatever gender we think we are, and so on.





(I'm half Lesbian and one quarter Cherokee, myself.... :D )
 
I don't care if a politician swears up and down they are any ethnicity...it has NOTHING to do with my decision process about voting for them.

I don't care if they were a drunk, drug addict, addicted to pornography, had sex with table lamps and claimed they were abducted by Martians on several occasions.

If I believe they are sane and are the candidate that shares the most political viewpoints with me...that is all I care about.


And this nonsense about whether she lied or exaggerated or let the idea continue without stopping it is ridiculous.

Hello people?

Politicians lie through their teeth.

Are you people really so staggeringly naive as to believe they don't?

Either 'yes'...which means you are too stupid/ignorant to vote (IMO). Or 'no'...which leads me to ask 'what difference does this make?'


I am neither rep nor dem (both parties are useless to me -two sides of the same pathetic coin)...but a person with an IQ of 22 can clearly see that this whole topic is little more then anti-Warren people trying to discredit her rather then an unbiased, rational person seeking the truth about an important topic.

What an extreme view. How can you decide to vote for someone if you begin by accepting everything the person says could be a lie? Flipping a coin?

I think what you just wrote is you vote straight ticket because you don't believe anything any of them say anyway, therefore put total blind faith in a political party. That certainly is easiest since it doesn't required 1 minute of thought.
 
actually the one ancestor that could be found from that period was a militia officer who was beating the Indians on their march on the trail of tears

which is why we call her Lieyawatha or Fauxchontas.

You also wonder how some one with a Rutgers law degree got a tenured position at Harvard

Because the was the FIRST Native American AND the First Minority Woman to have such a position at Harvard. That is how she falsely sold herself - and how Harvard falsely used it for minority stats - she counted as TWO minorities. Native American AND minority woman.
 
Because the was the FIRST Native American AND the First Minority Woman to have such a position at Harvard. That is how she falsely sold herself - and how Harvard falsely used it for minority stats - she counted as TWO minorities. Native American AND minority woman.

she was a quota queen
 
That was always her explanation. And an "Indian" is that person who lives in India. That's in Asia, by the way.

Most people know "Indian" came from the initial belief they had sailed around the world and reached India.
 
Most people know "Indian" came from the initial belief they had sailed around the world and reached India.

Yes, and then people found out that the Americas were not India. In any case, it's possible apdst didn't know that.
 
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Do you care if she lied about it, meaning that she was falsely seeking racial advantage, harming the credibility of the system of affirmative action while also presumably denying a spot to the next actual minority in line, for her own professional and financial benefit?

I kinda think they'll be unconcerned until someone shows it's true and then it'll be a wonderful thing.
 
Fauxcahontas Warren fits right in with the other Leftist idiots.
 
I kinda think they'll be unconcerned until someone shows it's true and then it'll be a wonderful thing.

That's about as likely to happen as someone "proving" that George W. Bush isn't a Christian.
 
An Indian is also a person from one of the American tribes.

People with a secondary education or greater generally know to use different words for the indigenous people of the Americas and the people of India, so sure, go ahead and use the word "Indian."
 
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