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Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?


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May not have been the original question, but that was indeed my question in response to the other poster. Where's the line?

The line between being a full blooded Native American or not, or between being part Native American or not?
 
Wrong. She is a us senator. She influences national legislation, not just mass. Its relevant to everyone.

She is indeed one of one hundred. But none of us can vote for or against here. She has been voted by the people of MASS to represent that state and no other state. She either does it according to their wishes or they can replace her. It isn't up to someone in Georgia, me, to tell the people of MASS or any other state whom their senator should be. Just like other folks in the other states have no right to tell the people of Georgia whom our senators should be.

They try, oh do they try. Something should be done about that. I would be in favor of a law that says if you can't vote for someone, then you can contribute to anyone running for that office.
 
Do you care if she lied about it, meaning that she was falsely seeking racial advantage, harming the credibility of the system of affirmative action while also presumably denying a spot to the next actual minority in line, for her own professional and financial benefit?

I personally don't care, because I was already turned off by her habits of being a rabble rouser rather than either a team player or a negotiator for a compromised solution.
 
Let's go with the "family lore" angle. Presuming that is indeed what she did, at what point is one of "X" ethnic class vs merely having some of "X" heritage in their family background?

Or, would it not matter? If it wouldn't matter, then anyone with an ancestor 8 generations ago, for example, as an "X" ethnicity would qualify me as being "X" also. The fact that every single other person in my lineage before and after was "Y" would be irrelevant. I'm "X".

About Citizenship

Cherokee Nation citizenship does not require a specific blood quantum. It does require that you have at least one direct Cherokee ancestor listed on the Dawes Final Rolls, a federal census of those living in the Cherokee Nation that was used to allot Cherokee land to individual citizens in preparation for Oklahoma statehood.

Interestingly enough our POTUS is half white and he is not considered Caucasian. If he entered that he was ethnically white, would folks have an issue with it
 
Unless Warren runs for president whether or not she is or isn't, lied or not, is only relevant to the people of MASS. She is their senator and they had to decide and apparently they decided they didn't care. I don't either.

That's the relevant part. At the point she does, it becomes an issue.
 
About Citizenship



Interestingly enough our POTUS is half white and he is not considered Caucasian. If he entered that he was ethnically white, would folks have an issue with it

I would considering he checked the non-white boxes throughout college and gained from that.
 
Warren also did not serve in the military and thus avoided the draft and serving in Vietnam.

Warren has never denied being a female.

Warren openly admits to receiving a government paycheck.

On more than one occasion Warren has been observed taking a taxi in New York City.
 
That's the relevant part. At the point she does, it becomes an issue.

true, but not until then. But how big an issue would it become? Those who support her do not care, those who are against her cite it, but what about those who haven't made up their mind about her? Whether or not she checked native american on an college entrance form way back when, I really do not see this becoming a defining issue.
 
true, but not until then. But how big an issue would it become? Those who support her do not care, those who are against her cite it, but what about those who haven't made up their mind about her? Whether or not she checked native american on an college entrance form way back when, I really do not see this becoming a defining issue.

Conservatives have a poor track record for choosing scandals that actually make sense to anybody but themselves. The left doesn't care because they know it's manufactured nonsense, but I can guarantee you that undecided voters are listening to the Right's outrage and thinking, "This...this is a scandal? Oh crap, I marked that I was of Mexican descent when I applied to college! And I can't find my documentation anywhere! Does this mean my future in politics is over?"
 
Conservatives have a poor track record for choosing scandals that actually make sense to anybody but themselves. The left doesn't care because they know it's manufactured nonsense, but I can guarantee you that undecided voters are listening to the Right's outrage and thinking, "This...this is a scandal? Oh crap, I marked that I was of Mexican descent when I applied to college! And I can't find my documentation anywhere! Does this mean my future in politics is over?"

But what does Warrens long form birth certificate say???:lamo
 
Conservatives have a poor track record for choosing scandals that actually make sense to anybody but themselves. The left doesn't care because they know it's manufactured nonsense, but I can guarantee you that undecided voters are listening to the Right's outrage and thinking, "This...this is a scandal? Oh crap, I marked that I was of Mexican descent when I applied to college! And I can't find my documentation anywhere! Does this mean my future in politics is over?"

I really do not think most voters cares what someone did 20-30 or more years ago. Look at Bill Clinton, a draft evader and smoked pot in college. Yet we elected him and I am glad we did. I never voted for him, in fact it took me a couple of years to get over the fact we elected a draft evader president, that I couldn't understand at the time. But he ended up being on of the better presidents in my lifetime.
 
I really do not think most voters cares what someone did 20-30 or more years ago. Look at Bill Clinton, a draft evader and smoked pot in college. Yet we elected him and I am glad we did. I never voted for him, in fact it took me a couple of years to get over the fact we elected a draft evader president, that I couldn't understand at the time. But he ended up being on of the better presidents in my lifetime.

Oh, I don't think they care either, I'm just referring to how they might try to wrap their heads around the idea of this being a scandal. First rule of trying to bring someone down over a scandal: make sure your scandal makes sense.
 
Oh, I don't think they care either, I'm just referring to how they might try to wrap their heads around the idea of this being a scandal. First rule of trying to bring someone down over a scandal: make sure your scandal makes sense.

I am surprised someone brought it back up. It has been vetted, most people just do not care anymore. This was dug up during the campaign for senator. Campaigns should be about ideas, visions, solutions and plans on where one wants to take America.
 
I am surprised someone brought it back up. It has been vetted, most people just do not care anymore. This was dug up during the campaign for senator. Campaigns should be about ideas, visions, solutions and plans on where one wants to take America.

Ideas, visions, plans on where one wants to take America - you are sure asking for a lot, Pero! It's so much easier to attack your opponent, and what you say doesn't even have to be true! {I'm thinking about Reid's remarks about Romney's money during the last POTUS election}. Romney had too much class to dignify those jealous comments, but maybe he should have, just to clear the record. And as far as taking Romney's remark about the "47 percent" out of context, that was the MSM's bias on display.

Regarding Elizabeth Warren's heritage, I voted "who cares?" because that's how I feel about that. Whether or not she is part Native American is not why I would or would not vote for her. It doesn't matter to me.
 
Ideas, visions, plans on where one wants to take America - you are sure asking for a lot, Pero! It's so much easier to attack your opponent, and what you say doesn't even have to be true! {I'm thinking about Reid's remarks about Romney's money during the last POTUS election}. Romney had too much class to dignify those jealous comments, but maybe he should have, just to clear the record. And as far as taking Romney's remark about the "47 percent" out of context, that was the MSM's bias on display.

Regarding Elizabeth Warren's heritage, I voted "who cares?" because that's how I feel about that. Whether or not she is part Native American is not why I would or would not vote for her. It doesn't matter to me.

Exactly, being part native american or not is irrelevant. How good a job would she do is what I would ask. What are her ideas on where this country should go and does she have any solutions to the pressing issues and problems of today.
 
Pretty cut and dried. Have at it.

Fauxcahontas could have ended this easily with a DNA test, but she did not. Therefore she alone bears responsibility for the continuing speculation. She seems to have gained advantage earlier in life because of her Native American claim. If it's false that undermines her reputation.

Many US families have lore about a Native American ancestor. Mine did. I sorted that out via DNA. There was no Native American but there were Kurds, Palestinian Arabs and Ashkenazi Jews. Pretty cool.
 
Exactly, being part native american or not is irrelevant. How good a job would she do is what I would ask. What are her ideas on where this country should go and does she have any solutions to the pressing issues and problems of today.

She made the claim and profited from it. It's an integrity issue. She could have put this to bed quickly via DNA but did not.
 
Exactly, being part native american or not is irrelevant. How good a job would she do is what I would ask. What are her ideas on where this country should go and does she have any solutions to the pressing issues and problems of today.

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Fauxcahontas could have ended this easily with a DNA test, but she did not. Therefore she alone bears responsibility for the continuing speculation. She seems to have gained advantage earlier in life because of her Native American claim. If it's false that undermines her reputation.

Many US families have lore about a Native American ancestor. Mine did. I sorted that out via DNA. There was no Native American but there were Kurds, Palestinian Arabs and Ashkenazi Jews. Pretty cool.

Someone actually told her to take a DNA test?
 
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