View Poll Results: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

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  • Absolutely not -- part of her family denies it.

    7 7.14%
  • Absolutely -- part of her family says it's true.

    1 1.02%
  • How the hell would I know?

    29 29.59%
  • I don't see why this is so unbelievable.

    7 7.14%
  • Who cares?

    64 65.31%
  • No, seriously, this is the least important issue in the history of anything ever.

    35 35.71%
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Getting snarky? I would too if I'd been caught lying and making it up as I go.
    Not at all snarky. Just the plain truth. You have only discredited yourself here.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Not at all snarky. Just the plain truth. You have only discredited yourself here.
    Says the guy who has been making the claim that Warren benefited from her NA heritage since the beginning and then admitted he had no proof of it when pressed for evidence.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Says the guy who has been making the claim that Warren benefited from her NA heritage since the beginning and then admitted he had no proof of it when pressed for evidence.
    There was nothing to admit. I never said there was evidence. I voiced my belief. It remains my belief.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    There was nothing to admit. I never said there was evidence.
    You made a claim without evidence. That's been pretty obvious. No need to keep repeating it.

    I voiced my belief. It remains my belief.
    Without any evidence to support it? How shocking.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You made a claim without evidence. That's been pretty obvious. No need to keep repeating it.



    Without any evidence to support it? How shocking.
    In fact, I posted the links that make clear there's no conclusive evidence. Thank you for supporting my point.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    In fact, I posted the links that make clear there's no conclusive evidence.
    Utter nonsense. Now you're claiming you posted links that make it clear that your claims had no evidence behind them? Laughable to say the least.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Utter nonsense. Now you're claiming you posted links that make it clear that your claims had no evidence behind them? Laughable to say the least.
    I'm sorry you are having trouble following the discussion. Here's a repeat of my #238. Please note the first sentence, bolded for your convenience.

    It's not so simple. The odd thing is that the whole thing could be laid to rest with a simple DNA test for about $250. I did that to get a conclusive answer to a similar story in the lore of my family.

    The fight over Elizabeth Warren's heritage, explained - The ...

    www.washingtonpost.com/.../the-fight-over-elizabe...The Washington Post


    Sep 27, 2012 - If you're just tuning in, here's a summary of the spat: Warren claims she has Native American ancestry. She's never substantiated her claim with ...


    Did Elizabeth Warren check the Native American box when ...

    Washington Post: Breaking News, World, US, DC News & Analysis...elizabeth-warrens-clai...The Washington Post


    Sep 28, 2012 - Undocumented claims of Native American ancestry, especially those based on family ... She signed her entries Elizabeth Warren -- Cherokee.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I'm sorry you are having trouble following the discussion. Here's a repeat of my #238. Please note the first sentence, bolded for your convenience.

    It's not so simple. The odd thing is that the whole thing could be laid to rest with a simple DNA test for about $250. I did that to get a conclusive answer to a similar story in the lore of my family.

    The fight over Elizabeth Warren's heritage, explained - The ...

    Page Not Found - Debate Politics Forumselizabe...The Washington Post

    Sep 27, 2012 - If you're just tuning in, here's a summary of the spat: Warren claims she has Native American ancestry. She's never substantiated her claim with ...

    Did Elizabeth Warren check the Native American box when ...

    Washington Post: Breaking News, World, US, DC News & Analysis...elizabeth-warrens-clai...The Washington Post

    Sep 28, 2012 - Undocumented claims of Native American ancestry, especially those based on family ... She signed her entries “Elizabeth Warren -- Cherokee.
    I think it's you who has trouble understanding that Elizabeth Warren's claims being "undocumented", do not prove that you claimed that you had no proof behind your claims that she benefited from it. How ridiculous can you get Hays? Your assertions were destroyed the minute you couldn't provide proof that Elizabeth Warren benefited from her NA claims. Get over it and move on.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I think it's you who has trouble understanding that Elizabeth Warren's claims being "undocumented", do not prove that you claimed that you had no proof behind your claims that she benefited from it. How ridiculous can you get Hays? Your assertions were destroyed the minute you couldn't provide proof that Elizabeth Warren benefited from her NA claims. Get over it and move on.
    Sorry, but you have no point and never did. At no point in this discussion did I ever claim to put forward anything other than my personal belief. The debating point has already been conclusively demonstrated. The only thing keeping this exchange going is your irrational need to avoid conceding that you misunderstood the thread.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Sorry, but you have no point and never did.
    My point is that you made claims, and are now trying every single weasel tactic to distance yourself from those claims. You were asked to demonstrate that Warren had benefited from her claims (As you had asserted earlier in the thread). You couldn't. Now you're just trying to waste bandwidth by distancing yourself from you unsubstantiated claims. It's not working.
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