View Poll Results: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

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  • Absolutely not -- part of her family denies it.

    7 7.14%
  • Absolutely -- part of her family says it's true.

    1 1.02%
  • How the hell would I know?

    29 29.59%
  • I don't see why this is so unbelievable.

    7 7.14%
  • Who cares?

    64 65.31%
  • No, seriously, this is the least important issue in the history of anything ever.

    35 35.71%
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    If she's proven part Native American and wants to incorporate that into her ethnic heritage/identity then that's not my business to say she can't. It could be purely for political reasons but if she's part Native American she can identify how she pleases.
    When was the last time she brought this up - other than responding to the brouhaha caused by political operatives (etc)?

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Mia Love's husband's name is Jason Love. That's why she "discarded her clearly French last name. I discarded my clearly German last name when I married my Irish/Swedish husband. That's what most women do when they marry..
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No, no. Her legal name is Ludmya Bordeau Love. She goes by Mia Love. Again, a decision which no matter the circumstances distance her from her ethnic heritage. However, it doesn't call into question her integrity either. Do you get this yet? How a person decides to address their ethnic heritage does not call into question their integrity. It is a personal decision which has nothing to do with their actual politics
    Most women, in our culture, on getting married, have their names legally changed so that they first name is that of their husband. It's not mandatory, of course, but it is the most accepted convention, and most conform to it. Are you claiming that Mrs. Love did not do so?
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That is irrelevant to the point being made. Ludmya Bordeau Love is under no requirement to use her husband's name, or shorten Ludmya and discard Bordeau. Those were personal decisions which had the effect of distancing her from her ethnic heritage.
    You seem to be making assumptions not supported by evidence.

    As stated, it is the accepted convention for a woman, on marrying, to legally have her last name changed to that of her husband. Some women keep their maiden name as a middle name, and some do not.

    Nothing to do with “distancing herself from her ethnic heritage”.

    And it's a very common convention to go by a shortened “nickname” based on one's full legal first name, especially when the first name is more than two syllables. “Mia” is certainly an obvious and legitimate shortened form of “Ludmya”.

    Again, nothing to do with “distancing herself from her ethnic heritage”.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Most women, in our culture, on getting married, have their names legally changed so that they first name is that of their husband. It's not mandatory, of course, but it is the most accepted convention, and most conform to it. Are you claiming that Mrs. Love did not do so?
    Read that again and tell me how you arrived at the conclusion. "Mia Love" did more than take her husband's name. She shortened her first name and has ignored the fact that legally she also has her original ethnic sounding name. Again, this doesn't call into question her integrity. However, it is a personal decision as much as Warren deciding to consider herself NA based on family lore.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No, Mia Love changed her name because she fell in love and got married, not because of he views on her ethnicity.
    Does she no longer use her legal name Bordeau because she fell in love? Nonsense. I married a person with a very similar culture to that of Haitians and she took on my name and kept hers as well. "Mia Love" distanced herself from her ethnic background in the same manner that "Bobby" Jindal did. However, these are normal things for people raised in countries where they are minorities. They're as normal as considering yourself to be of an ethnicity based on family lore.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Throwing accusations without proof is exactly what the "throw crap against the wall and see what sticks" mentality is all about.
    She claims Native American ancestry; I don't believe her. She claims not to have benefited professionally from her claim; I don't believe her. I can't prove anything, but the issues will remain alive.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    No need to resort to smaller words, try better ideas instead.
    This is just a matter of political liability.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    She claims Native American ancestry; I don't believe her. She claims not to have benefited professionally from her claim; I don't believe her. I can't prove anything, but the issues will remain alive.
    And who is keeping it alive? Warren?

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    And who is keeping it alive? Warren?
    Probably the Hillary Clinton team.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Most women, in our culture, on getting married, have their names legally changed so that they first name is that of their husband. It's not mandatory, of course, but it is the most accepted convention, and most conform to it. Are you claiming that Mrs. Love did not do so?
    He said Mia Love took her husband's name so she could appear more "white".
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