View Poll Results: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

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  • Absolutely not -- part of her family denies it.

    7 7.14%
  • Absolutely -- part of her family says it's true.

    1 1.02%
  • How the hell would I know?

    29 29.59%
  • I don't see why this is so unbelievable.

    7 7.14%
  • Who cares?

    64 65.31%
  • No, seriously, this is the least important issue in the history of anything ever.

    35 35.71%
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yawn, being reduced to accepting you have no proof really must hurt your ego.
    I never claimed to have proof. That is your fantasy.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol, you believe she benefited without proof. Good to know you admit how nonsensical your position has been since you started posting in this thread.
    The "show crap against the wall and see what sticks" mentality.

    Crap thrown, not sticking.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    The "show crap against the wall and see what sticks" mentality.

    Crap thrown, not sticking.
    You have missed the point entirely, as has Hatuey. In future I will use smaller words just for you two.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    You have missed the point entirely, as has Hatuey. In future I will use smaller words just for you two.
    Throwing accusations without proof is exactly what the "throw crap against the wall and see what sticks" mentality is all about.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    You have missed the point entirely, as has Hatuey. In future I will use smaller words just for you two.
    No need to resort to smaller words, try better ideas instead.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    l dont understand such questions ,arent natives really natives WHO are supposed to be living here for hundreds of years

    of course many of you may be half native half anglo
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm getting bored with you. You simply don't understand that this is part of a larger pattern of people changing their names to fit into the society they live in. Is that really too complex for you to understand? The point however is that it doesn't mean much in terms of their integrity. It just means they made decisions based on what they believed would advance them in the society they lived in.



    It's almost like you don't understand larger points at all. Last time I explain this before you get aggravated that you're being beaten in a debate and decide to go into your ad-hom tirades:

    How Obama dealt with his ethnic origins, what he named his kids, how he distanced himself from his racial identity are irrelevant to his integrity as a person. That's the point here. These examples (Ludmya, Piyush, Warren, McCain and Obama) all have the same thing in common. That thing being how people have dealt with their racial identity. The decisions they have made are A) personal and B) irrelevant to their politics. As such, they do not call integrity into question at any point because the "true" reasons behind them are known only to them. Do you get this yet? Or no? If you don't, then please don't respond. A person sounds incredibly uneducated when they fail to understand a point for 4+ posts (i.e. apologist).
    Mia Love didn't change her name any more than Sasha Obama changed her name. You don't understand the concept of nicknames, do you?

    Bobby Jindal did what many first generation Americans have done - he anglicized his name at the age of 7. Do you think he did it so he would get a job in his later years?

    And again, what do Mia Love using a nickname and Bobby Jindal Anglicizing his name have to do with Elizabeth Warren? Nothing.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Mia Love didn't change her name any more than Sasha Obama changed her name. You don't understand the concept of nicknames, do you?

    Bobby Jindal did what many first generation Americans have done - he anglicized his name at the age of 7. Do you think he did it so he would get a job in his later years?

    And again, what do Mia Love using a nickname and Bobby Jindal Anglicizing his name have to do with Elizabeth Warren? Nothing.
    And Warren accepting what had been told to her by her family has nothing to do with integrity - except the possibility of those generations back that gave potentially false information.

    Perhaps many generations ago Warrens family started the rumor (if it is rumor) so generations later Warren could possibly get a job.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    And Warren accepting what had been told to her by her family has nothing to do with integrity - except the possibility of those generations back that gave potentially false information.

    Perhaps many generations ago Warrens family started the rumor (if it is rumor) so generations later Warren could possibly get a job.
    I didn't say anything otherwise.

    You'll have to ask Hatuey about the second part. He's the one who says kids give themselves "white" nicknames so they have an easier time finding a job.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I didn't say anything otherwise.

    You'll have to ask Hatuey about the second part. He's the one who says kids give themselves "white" nicknames so they have an easier time finding a job.
    I think kids accept nicknames that allow them to fit in. My guess is that his parents understood potential harsh realities of the future.

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