View Poll Results: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

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  • Absolutely not -- part of her family denies it.

    7 7.14%
  • Absolutely -- part of her family says it's true.

    1 1.02%
  • How the hell would I know?

    29 29.59%
  • I don't see why this is so unbelievable.

    7 7.14%
  • Who cares?

    64 65.31%
  • No, seriously, this is the least important issue in the history of anything ever.

    35 35.71%
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Except she didn't just tell others what she had heard, she attested to it as fact on forms for self gain.
    She wouldn't be the first person to state their beliefs as facts. Doesn't call into question their integrity. More importantly, this issue doesn't call her integrity into question anymore than Republicans changing name to seem less ethnic questions there. Piyush Jindal? Ludmya Love? Yeah, this is a non-issue for the most part. Try harder.

    This is something she knew was wrong to do at the time, but she got away with it and rode with the gain.
    Nonsense. If she believed she was Native American because her family told her so, and stated it as fact, then "she knew" that she was wrong is nonsense. As far as Elizabeth Warren understood, her family and by extension her had NA roots dating back hundreds of years. That's no different than a person believing they're Scottish because their name is Smythe, only to later find out they're Irish. It's really not that big of a deal. Try harder.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Except she didn't just tell others what she had heard, she attested to it as fact on forms for self gain. This is something she knew was wrong to do at the time, but she got away with it and rode with the gain.
    The Globe obtained a portion of Warren's application to Rutgers, which asks if prospective students want to apply for admission under the school's Program for Minority Group Students. Warren answered "no."

    For her employment documents at the University of Texas, Warren indicated that she was "white."

    But Penn's 2005 Minority Equity Report identified her as the recipient of a 1994 faculty award, listing her name in bold to signify that she was a minority. The Herald has twice quoted Charles Fried, the head of the Harvard appointing committee that recommended Warren for her position in 1995, saying that the Democratic candidate's heritage didn't come up during the course of her hiring. "It simply played no role in the appointments process," he said. "It was not mentioned and I didn't mention it to the faculty."

    The Herald later quoted Fried, a former U.S. Solicitor General under President Ronald Reagan, saying, "I can state categorically that the subject of her Native American ancestry never once was mentioned."
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Circling the wagons.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Circling the wagons.
    Huh??

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    If she challenges Hillary for the Dem nomination then Hillary's team will put this issue front and center.
    Why should that make me care?

    Politicians spend 75% of their time arguing about pointless bull**** already, what's another point of bull?
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Huh??
    The 2012 denials were just attempts to deflect a threat to her campaign. They are inconsistent with the contemporaneous record of events.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Why should that make me care?

    Politicians spend 75% of their time arguing about pointless bull**** already, what's another point of bull?
    This is a political debate forum. This is a political question. If you don't care then don't participate.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    This is a political debate forum. This is a political question. If you don't care then don't participate.
    But I must participate to inform everyone of how little I care.

    It is important that you realize I care so little.

    Very important.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    But I must participate to inform everyone of how little I care.

    It is important that you realize I care so little.

    Very important.

    *angry noises*
    I have been informed.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The 2012 denials were just attempts to deflect a threat to her campaign. They are inconsistent with the contemporaneous record of events.
    The evidence says she checked a box. Other evidence showed she asked her alleged heritage not to be used for the hiring process. Other evidence shows he had identified as "white"/

    The only circling of the wagons is those of desperate people who fear a potential candidacy beyond the Senate.

    This issue will just be another long form birth certificate type fiasco that clearly backfired on the republicans. I say go for it, make it a huge issue.

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