View Poll Results: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

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  • Absolutely not -- part of her family denies it.

    7 7.14%
  • Absolutely -- part of her family says it's true.

    1 1.02%
  • How the hell would I know?

    29 29.59%
  • I don't see why this is so unbelievable.

    7 7.14%
  • Who cares?

    64 65.31%
  • No, seriously, this is the least important issue in the history of anything ever.

    35 35.71%
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    I don't care what she is or thinks she is.

    My criticisms aren't based on her self identifying as part Native american for financial gains.
    Allegations at best.

    She a hack leftist shill and a rallying point for people that are gullible enough to believe her rhetoric.

    Apparently, the Democrats still believe the majority of the American voters are still idiots or they wouldn't be pushing her as a candidate.
    So in other words, you don't like her cause she's a leftist? What else is new. Moving on.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    If you use the criteria natives use then no.
    If any % qualifies then maybe depending on hiw long her family has been here. Been here long enough and anyone could have an indian in the woodpile

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Scott Brown is a good guy. However, for him to try and make a big stink out of this is pretty ridiculous. Specially when the GOP base is made up of evangelicals who don't look kindly upon nudies on Cosmopolitan. He really made himself look like a fool by focusing on this "issue". The majority of Americans don't care about the circumstances around Elizabeth Warren's employment 20 years ago anymore than they care about who won the Super Bowl in 2010. It's simply not relevant.
    They care about her integrity. It is relevant to most people.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by dogtowner View Post
    If you use the criteria natives use then no.
    If any % qualifies then maybe depending on hiw long her family has been here. Been here long enough and anyone could have an indian in the woodpile
    Not me.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    They care about her integrity. It is relevant to most people.
    Integrity is determined by whether a person believes they have heritage which they don't? Look, either way this goes, Elizabeth Warren has plausible deniability. She wouldn't be the first person who believes she has a certain ancestry only to find out years later, that she does not. She stated she had Native Americans in her background and she listed herself as a minority based on the stories she had heard from her family. For you to prove that there was an intent to deceive people (A-la-Iron Eyes Cody) would not only be incredibly hard, you'd literally have to show what she was thinking at the time she made statements about what the stories her family told. Then again, there are literally millions of blacks who claim that they're black when in reality they're a mixture of East Indian, European, African-American and Asian. Are we going to hold them hostage for their politics too? What about Piyush Jindal, Ludmya Bourdeau Love, and Nimrata Nikki Randwana Haley? Are we going to attack them for distancing themselves from their ethnic heritages and shortening/changing their name to seem more American? Are we going to hold them accountable for how they've dealt with their ethnic heritage? Of course not. It's stupid and a personal issue that has had no bearing on why they got elected or their politics. As I said, this is such a minute issue, I just don't care about it anymore than I care that Scott Brown was a nudie for Cosmo 30 years ago. It's irrelevant to his politics, and it's irrelevant to what I think of a person's character.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    They care about her integrity. It is relevant to most people.
    Unless Warren runs for president whether or not she is or isn't, lied or not, is only relevant to the people of MASS. She is their senator and they had to decide and apparently they decided they didn't care. I don't either.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Pretty cut and dried. Have at it.
    She was part indian when it came to time to apply for a job at Harvard. The rest of the time she didn't talk about it.

    Identity politics has gotten to be pretty silly when a woman who looks, acts, and thinks like a typical urban WASP and has never been within 100 miles of an indian reservation can get credit for Native American ancestry on a job application.

    There's an indian tribe in Massachusetts that long since all left their reservation for city life, intermingled with the population, and therefore lost the land. Now they are trying to get the tribe rehabilitated and get their land back because they have this vision of building a casino within 30 miles of a major metropolitan area. So they have all these "indians", some of them as blond, blue eyed, and white as you can imagine, demonstrating for their native lands and rights.

    If we reward stupid behavior we get more stupid behavior.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    She was part indian when it came to time to apply for a job at Harvard. The rest of the time she didn't talk about it.
    It's interesting you would claim to know this. Are you a close friend or family member?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Identity politics has gotten to be pretty silly when a woman who looks, acts, and thinks like a typical urban WASP and has never been within 100 miles of an indian reservation can get credit for Native American ancestry on a job application.

    There's an indian tribe in Massachusetts that long since all left their reservation for city life, intermingled with the population, and therefore lost the land. Now they are trying to get the tribe rehabilitated and get their land back because they have this vision of building a casino within 30 miles of a major metropolitan area. So they have all these "indians", some of them as blond, blue eyed, and white as you can imagine, demonstrating for their native lands and rights.

    If we reward stupid behavior we get more stupid behavior.
    Nice rant.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    I never ended up voting in the poll. I think the most likely option was not included.

    There should have been an option " Elizabeth Warren believed she was part Native American."

    I think she believed family lore.

    I never thought to challenge my own family lore, but when creating a family tree, I discovered some of my own family lore was accurate, other was at best, unprovable. If I repeated my own family lore, I would not be lying. If after I found out the lore was highly questionable, that is a different issue.

    I consider this whole topic to be desperate attempts to avoid speaking to issues by way of character assassination.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I never ended up voting in the poll. I think the most likely option was not included.

    There should have been an option " Elizabeth Warren believed she was part Native American."

    I think she believed family lore.

    I never thought to challenge my own family lore, but when creating a family tree, I discovered some of my own family lore was accurate, other was at best, unprovable. If I repeated my own family lore, I would not be lying. If after I found out the lore was highly questionable, that is a different issue.

    I consider this whole topic to be desperate attempts to avoid speaking to issues by way of character assassination.
    Let's go with the "family lore" angle. Presuming that is indeed what she did, at what point is one of "X" ethnic class vs merely having some of "X" heritage in their family background?

    Or, would it not matter? If it wouldn't matter, then anyone with an ancestor 8 generations ago, for example, as an "X" ethnicity would qualify me as being "X" also. The fact that every single other person in my lineage before and after was "Y" would be irrelevant. I'm "X".
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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