View Poll Results: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

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  • Absolutely not -- part of her family denies it.

    7 7.14%
  • Absolutely -- part of her family says it's true.

    1 1.02%
  • How the hell would I know?

    29 29.59%
  • I don't see why this is so unbelievable.

    7 7.14%
  • Who cares?

    64 65.31%
  • No, seriously, this is the least important issue in the history of anything ever.

    35 35.71%
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Exactly...what on Earth does this have to do with anything?

    What's next?

    Is she...a baseball fan? Secretly left handed? A fan of carbonated beverages?
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Exactly...what on Earth does this have to do with anything?

    What's next?

    Is she...a baseball fan? Secretly left handed? A fan of carbonated beverages?
    No, seems like just a liar.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Exactly...what on Earth does this have to do with anything?

    What's next?

    Is she...a baseball fan? Secretly left handed? A fan of carbonated beverages?
    If she is going to run for POTUS she's going to be called on her past lies, and this is one of them. This lie gave her an advantage at one time in her life. That speaks to character and may very well have been a felony. Kobie is obviously a Warren fan and would like to see this put back in the box of things we do not speak of.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If she is going to run for POTUS she's going to be called on her past lies, and this is one of them. This lie gave her an advantage at one time in her life. That speaks to character and may very well have been a felony.
    1. It's not even clear that it was a lie.
    2. A felony? Seriously?
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    1. It's not even clear that it was a lie.
    2. A felony? Seriously?
    Yes, do you even read the forms you sign? If she made the false claim on a federal application form, that is indeed a felony. And yes, pretty clearly a lie.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Elizabeth Warren Native American / Cherokee Controversy Elizabeth Warren Wiki
    She may have not shouted from the roof tops, but she did really make any effort to stop it. Until she was called on it.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Are you seriously trying to smear Warren with Churchill's words? Could you be more jaw-droppingly dishonest?
    I'll leave it to the readers to decide who is dishonest here. But accusing me of dishonesty can't hide the fact Pocohontas Warren is a damned liar, just like Churchill, Wright, Obama, and most other collectivists. Lying has been part and parcel of being a collectivist at least since the days of Lenin. Saul Alinsky openly advocated intentional deceit, and Obama and others like him--including Pocohontas--have adopted that recommendation with a vengeance. She wouldn't be the first law school professor to be a bald-faced liar.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That makes sense. The evidence against her is that her story (and what she wrote on forms) changed back and forth - depending whether being white or being NA best served her personally.
    Which is indicitive of someone with little significant tie to her ethnic heritage, but doesn't necessarily indicate she was "lying".

    My grandfather (passed away a number of years before I was born) was half native american, which my uncle ended up verifying doing ancestory research regarding the family line. So I've got at least an 1/8th in me, which is one of the larger percentages (italian being the most). I don't self identify typically as native american, I've never strongly intigrated myself with that culture growing up, and in general I wouldn't label myself as one.

    That said, when they were asking for applicants to attend a variety of minority based conferences (the groups hosting the conference were minority based, attending was not restricted to such), the fact that I did have native american descent was something I pointed to when putting in my application...specifically because it's what made me interested in attending that particular conference as opposed to one of the other ones. When I was 17 and in high school as well, I put in for a scholarship that simply required native american descent (admittedly, in retrospect I'm happy I was not one of those that was awarded said scholarship).

    Me self identifying most of my life as "white" doesn't mean I'm lying when I say I have native american descent. It arguably wouldn't be lying if I said I identified as native american instead of white at this point IF I actually, in my normal life, began to actually identify more with that part of my history. It could be considered self serving, unprincipled, etc...but not "lying".

    There's a LARGE difference between saying her claims regarding her supposed NA ancestry are deserving of questioning, criticism, or scorn....and outright claiming it was a lie.

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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I'll leave it to the readers to decide who is dishonest here. But accusing me of dishonesty can't hide the fact Pocohontas Warren is a damned liar, just like Churchill, Wright, Obama, and most other collectivists. Lying has been part and parcel of being a collectivist at least since the days of Lenin. Saul Alinsky openly advocated intentional deceit, and Obama and others like him--including Pocohontas--have adopted that recommendation with a vengeance. She wouldn't be the first law school professor to be a bald-faced liar.
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    Re: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    It was no mistake that she changed her story many times even after she "came to believe" (after age 30?) that she was Native American when it was to her benefit. It is not up to me to prove that her claims were false but it is up to her to prove them to be true.
    It's up to her to "prove" her claims in terms of demanding that people believe that she IS native american, that's true.

    It's not up to her to "prove" that she believed she was native american, and that she was honestly presenting herself as such without an intent to decieve, beyond her claims that it was the case. Her "proof" of what she believed is her stating what she believed. If you think she's lying about that, you need to provide evidence suggesting why you believe such.

    Again, there's a giant difference between:

    1. Whether or not she IS native american

    2. Whether or not she was intentionally misleading people by knowingly making a false statement regarding her supposed native american descent.

    She can absolutley not have a DROP of native american blood in here...and that would still not in any way prove whether or not she was "lying" about being native american. It would prove she was WRONG about being native american, but those are two different things.

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