View Poll Results: Which is worse

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  • Drone strikes that result in innocent people getting killed in countries we are not at war with .

    18 42.86%
  • Enhanced interrogation/torture of terrorists?

    7 16.67%
  • Both are equally bad.

    15 35.71%
  • I do not know

    2 4.76%
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Thread: Which is worse?

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    Re: Which is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    It's kinda odd trying to compare them.

    Torture (or "enhanced interrogation", if you want) is morally questionable (wrong, IMO) but I think, if used correctly, can develop useful intelligence...if the data gathered can be checked against other sources.

    Basically it's not a reliable source (because a person will say anything past a certain point) but it can point the way to seeking out more concrete information.

    It is also much more....personal and...in-your-face.


    Whereas drone attacks are somewhat impersonal (not for the pilots though) and have what many consider to be an unacceptable (read, higher than 0%) chance of killing unwitting/innocent bystanders (collateral damage is a term I dislike).

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    Re: Which is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I am sorry you cannot tell the difference between torture and drone attacks. It's simple common sense for most.
    I realize they are not the same.One is taking someone's life and the other is temporarily putting someone through pain or discomfort.The taking of someone's life is way much worse than torture.
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    Re: Which is worse?

    The drone program is much worse. However, torture is still immoral an not helpful. We are the good guys, we need to ****ing act like it.
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    Re: Which is worse?

    Enhanced drone strikes that kill innocent people vs torturing innocent people? Neither is acceptable but since the information for the drone strikes isn't derived from torture I don't see it as being worse than torturing innocent people. I think its probably an invalid comparison.


    Cheney probably had a lot more innocents tortured than were killed by drones....


    "...the report's findings that up to 25% of detainees were innocents captured as a result of mistaken identity and that one such man, Gul Rahman, froze to death after being doused with water and chained to a wall....

    "I'm more concerned with bad guys who got out and released than I am with a few that in fact were innocent.....I have no problem as long as we achieve our objective. And our objective is to get the guys who did 9/11 and it is to avoid another attack against the United States."" - Dick Cheney

    Cheney is the antithesis of what this country was founded on....


    "...In his 1765 Commentaries on the Laws of England, jurist William Blackstone wrote: "It is better that 10 guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

    This ratio, commonly called Blackstone's Formulation, drew from the Old Testament and has been a bedrock principle of Western jurisprudence, having been cited repeatedly by US Supreme Court justices.

    Mr Cheney may or may not believe this formulation applies to US citizens, but when it comes to foreign detainees, it appears he takes a decidedly different view."

    BBC News - Cheney: 'No problem' with detaining innocents



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