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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    The people of USA need to know the truth about our government's spending and activities or (representational) democracy is a farce. If the USA is honest, assumes responsibility for past mistakes and takes immediate corrective action to end the use of torture it will be better for international relations in the long run compared to just lying and covering up the practices that everybody already knows we did.

    For those who didn't know, although it appears that Obama has ended the use of torture by our government, the USA still uses renditions to have people tortured by others.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Yes it is a bold statement, and yes we do have a history of F-ing around with other countries. Some countries need F-ing with, and some, in hindsight, we should have left alone. That doesn't change the truth behind my statement.
    And you don't think that maybe the people living in the countries we F-up have had enough of being F-ed with?
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Diane Feinstein and the Democrats are releasing the Torture Report this week, they are saying. They meaning the Demos, Feinstein, and the MS Media.

    Foreign governments and U.S. intelligence agencies are predicting that the release of a Senate report examining the use of torture by the CIA will cause "violence and deaths" abroad. BO is backing the release of this report. Since he came out and stated we tortured some folks. Then other countries Intel services stated this will cause more violence and death to take place. This was all reported back to BO. Yet he and the Democrats are all for it.

    The Republicans are disputing this report and will come out with their own report. Feinstein said she would go ahead with the release. Even after Kerry asked her to hold off with the timing.

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    It's a bad idea IMO. It will serve no purpose but to anger our enemies.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    As a matter of principle I must condemn any act of torture, according to the terms of Geneva convention.
    I am sure Johnny Quest McCain said the same thing before he was tortured.

    Same for those in Nam.


    Fudginpoopeypants the Geneva convention.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by twixie1 View Post
    There are 2 sides to this story..will Vietnam/Afghanistan/Iraq do the same?? As they tortured and murdered our troops

    As far as I am concerned ''What happens in a war zone..should stay in the war zone!''
    Guantanamo and many other sites used for torture were not in war zones.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    I've been waterboarded and a few other interrogation techniques, as were all guys that would be potentially put in that position to understand what it felt like and how to not let it break you. Now... it was not fun, but it was not torcher either....
    When you were waterboarded you knew they weren't going to kill you. A prisoner does not have that sense of security. You probably were not subjected to it as long as actual prisoners were either.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Guantanamo and many other sites used for torture were not in war zones.
    Well..let's face it..they were plucked from everywhere and got a one way ticket..

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Does Guantanamo still exist??

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I am sure Johnny Quest McCain said the same thing before he was tortured.

    Same for those in Nam.


    Fudginpoopeypants the Geneva convention.
    Every act of torture we comit undermines our position on the world stage.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Waterboarding and sleep deprivation is not torcher. I have endured it - it is not torcher. There are no long lasting effects, just short term discomfort to break down resistance to questioning.

    Maybe you will change your mind when an attack happens that effects your own family and friends. I would hope you would.
    Extreme sleep deprivation is extreme torture that has driven people to insanity, self harm and suicide. The definition of torture does not require long term lasting effects.

    In my view, all torturers should be put on trial for their crimes. If a jury accepts their "ticking timebomb" justifications* as legitimate then they will be acquitted.

    *"I was only following orders" is not a legitimate justification

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