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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....I love your little game playing. Its like the old addage about the railroad worker who notices that a switch is out and he has to rush down to the tracks in order to manually pull the switch or else the train will crash killing hundreds on the train. As he makes it to the switch the train is coming, he pulls the switch and as he does he notices that his 4 year old son has followed him to the tracks and is standing on the tracks as the train is approaching. He can jump and save his son, in which case the train crashes killing all on board. What does the guy do?

    If he saves his son, you decry him as being a bad father for not saving his son. If he saves his son, you decry him as being immoral because he let hundreds die to save one.

    See the game that you are playing?

    The reality is....selling the soul of this country to save lives is not worth the price and likely would result in more dead than standing true to the values and principles that makes America great.


    Its not a game. Just a Hard choice to make.

    What the Left doesn't like about it is.....it puts an end to their game and all that preaching that they thought they could do.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Exactly. Everyone has a breaking point. I would bet that most of those who are outraged over the enhanced interrogations would have a change of heart if it were their own loved ones whose lives would be potentially saved. Then their narrative would be: "Whatever it takes".
    Exactly OCF Especially when family is in the mix. Or just think if their people were kidnapped, and that terrorist knows where their family member is.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    President Obama needs to pardon Cheney and Bush for their war crimes of ordering the torture .

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    President Obama needs to pardon Cheney and Bush for their war crimes of ordering the torture .
    why?
    and what about gonzalez?
    how about the attorney who wrote the legal position paper asserting that the methods used were not torture and did not violate the Geneva conventions?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    why?
    and what about gonzalez?
    how about the attorney who wrote the legal position paper asserting that the methods used were not torture and did not violate the Geneva conventions?
    Gozales and Rummy too.
    If we are not going to prosecute them they must be pardoned to acknowledge the fact that crimes were committed.
    Doing nothing indicates tacit complicity with these criminals.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    No. In my opinion things like anal feeding would be best dealt with internally.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    As I have already said twice....I would not sell the integrity and morality of this country out to save lives. I'm sorry that people will die, but saving their lives at the expense of destroying the country is too high a price to pay.

    Oh...and sorry....but a few self-serving statements from people who want to justify their actions stands counter to the vast amount of evidence that dispute the claim that torturing people saves lives.
    I am truly grateful that you will never be in a position of authority regarding the security of my country

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but that is the point
    according to the torture report, NO actionable intelligence was gathered as a result of our torturous actions
    none of our troops benefitted from the violation of the Geneva conventions

    but now, when our troops are subjected to such treatment by an enemy what can we, as a nation, say in objection to their actions
    and what do you say to the family of those Americans who would be subjected to torture like that we doled out
    That particular statement on the report was already debunked by the director of the cia And several other cia chiefs. It absolutely led to actionable intel that saved lives

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    Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Under the law that existed at the time, the enhanced interrogations did not fit the legal definition of torture. Some of the senate report is outright laughable. One of the methods of torture listed was "forcing the terrorists to listen to loud rock music"
    What the report does not say is that the prisoner who died of hypothermia was on a hunger strike also. His lack of nutrition obviously weakened him prior to his hypothermia.

    Im sorry but to equate these acts with "torcher" is laughable. Torcher is cutting, shocking, mutilation, and other inducements of intense pain.

    Sleep deprivation, loud music, uncomfortable sitting or standing. These things are merely a nuisance, causing such aggravation and discomfort they induce compliance. The mere mention of these acts in the same breath as "torture" is an insult to any one of our service men who were subjected to actual torcher. Dont water down the meaning of the word. It devalues it.

    Waterboarding i would characterize as a form of torture. I accept that and do not care. I say waterboard them all if it leads to the exposure of future attacks or capture/kill of accomplices.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    I am truly grateful that you will never be in a position of authority regarding the security of my country
    And I will say the same. I am grateful that you will never be in a position to sell out the integrity and morality that has made America great.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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