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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Diane Feinstein and the Democrats are releasing the Torture Report this week, they are saying. They meaning the Demos, Feinstein, and the MS Media.

    Foreign governments and U.S. intelligence agencies are predicting that the release of a Senate report examining the use of torture by the CIA will cause "violence and deaths" abroad. BO is backing the release of this report. Since he came out and stated we tortured some folks. Then other countries Intel services stated this will cause more violence and death to take place. This was all reported back to BO. Yet he and the Democrats are all for it.

    The Republicans are disputing this report and will come out with their own report. Feinstein said she would go ahead with the release. Even after Kerry asked her to hold off with the timing.

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    Yes, but it should be retitled:

    Torturing the Truth, A Report on US Interrogation by Demokrats
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Like I said....I played along with your little game, albeit a flawed one in reality. If torturing people actually saved any lives it wouldn't be flawed
    (show us any evidence that shoving hummus up someone's ass saves lives)....nevertheless, I would not bankrupt the integrity and morality of this country by engaging in that kind of vile behavior.
    The CIA says it has saved lives.....their OPS and their Staff. Military Intel people says it saves lives. So that isn't even the question despite you looking at a few cases out of hundreds that didn't produce anything. Even your Demos can't say lives weren't saved.

    Oh and you didn't play any game. Now lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Where YOUR Morality check, that you Try and Preach.....STANDS.

    Now there is no other choice.....you either save the peoples lives by torturing the terrorist. Or you let all those people die. Which will YOU do?

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Diane Feinstein and the Democrats are releasing the Torture Report this week, they are saying. They meaning the Demos, Feinstein, and the MS Media.

    Foreign governments and U.S. intelligence agencies are predicting that the release of a Senate report examining the use of torture by the CIA will cause "violence and deaths" abroad. BO is backing the release of this report. Since he came out and stated we tortured some folks. Then other countries Intel services stated this will cause more violence and death to take place. This was all reported back to BO. Yet he and the Democrats are all for it.

    The Republicans are disputing this report and will come out with their own report. Feinstein said she would go ahead with the release. Even after Kerry asked her to hold off with the timing.

    What say ye?
    The world has known we've been doing it and we're the only ones that haven't been facing it until now. I think that one of the best things that we can do is make a big deal of prosecuting this thing. Noting will change really; it'll all just go further under ground. But from at least WWII up until today we've been doing what we thought we had to do; interesting that it surfaces now though... To my mind, anybody who believes that our interests are better than that is either stupid or lying.

    I don't think it will ignite anything that wasn't going to catch fire anyway, so as to our future, it'll just be business as usual. But heads are going to have to roll and Dick Cheney's should be thew first. Unless big people go down none of it will add up to a hill of beans and we'll just look more like hypocrites.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The CIA says it has saved lives.....their OPS and their Staff. Military Intel people says it saves lives. So that isn't even the question despite you looking at a few cases out of hundreds that didn't produce anything. Even your Demos can't say lives weren't saved.

    Oh and you didn't play any game. Now lets see you put your money where your mouth is. Where YOUR Morality check, that you Try and Preach.....STANDS.

    Now there is no other choice.....you either save the peoples lives by torturing the terrorist. Or you let all those people die. Which will YOU do?
    As I have already said twice....I would not sell the integrity and morality of this country out to save lives. I'm sorry that people will die, but saving their lives at the expense of destroying the country is too high a price to pay.

    Oh...and sorry....but a few self-serving statements from people who want to justify their actions stands counter to the vast amount of evidence that dispute the claim that torturing people saves lives.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    As I have already said twice....I would not sell the integrity and morality of this country out to save lives. I'm sorry that people will die, but saving their lives at the expense of destroying the country is too high a price to pay.

    Oh...and sorry....but a few self-serving statements from people who want to justify their actions stands counter to the vast amount of evidence that dispute the claim that torturing people saves lives.


    Then that's where you stand.....You would let a great many people die! So much for preaching about morality and walking in that good light.

    What evidence? A one sided report that doesn't have any recommendation nor does it change any policy? Then theDemos have a failed Dept of Justice investigation who went a whole lot farther than this report did.

    Here is what the Demos got.....Nothing!

    Well one thing.....the backlash coming their way.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Then that's where you stand.....You would let a great many people die! So much for preaching about morality and walking in that good light.

    What evidence? A one sided report that doesn't have any recommendation nor does it change any policy? Then theDemos have a failed Dept of Justice investigation who went a whole lot farther than this report did.

    Here is what the Demos got.....Nothing!

    Well one thing.....the backlash coming their way.
    It's not that I don't see your point clearly. Regarding that, the torture admininstration deserves its' day in Court to present its' justifications and the one you are postulating will likely lead the list. Do you support that prosecution to give these torturors their day in Court and an opportunity to make your argument to a jury?

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    It's not that I don't see your point clearly. Regarding that, the torture admininstration deserves its' day in Court to present its' justifications and the one you are postulating will likely lead the list. Do you support that prosecution to give these torturors their day in Court and an opportunity to make your argument to a jury?
    Why would there be a Day of Court. Holder couldn't bring any criminal charges. What can a Prosecutor try that is legal by law?




    If for some reason it went to court.....I wouldn't have any trouble with a Jury's decision.


    What did this accomplish? It may fire up the lefty base and sate ideologues' political bloodlust after a brutal election, but this issue isn't a major advantage to posturing Democrats. Why? Americans overwhelmingly believe that "torture" is sometimes justified:



    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybens...r-cia-n1929813

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

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    I rest my case. These guys and girls deserve their day in Court to exonerate themselves or wiggle themselves deeper into their morass of whale crap. All those CIA guys are ones that would be indicted and does that mean they want to make their case in a compliant media that they may control. No, my friend, they deserve judgement and only a Court of Law can do that.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
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    I rest my case. These guys and girls deserve their day in Court to exonerate themselves or wiggle themselves deeper into their morass of whale crap. All those CIA guys are ones that would be indicted and does that mean they want to make their case in a compliant media that they may control. No, my friend, they deserve judgement and only a Court of Law can do that.
    Indicted for what DF?

    Do our Intel people carry a License to Kill?

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Indicted for what DF?

    Do our Intel people carry a License to Kill?
    Well, I'm pretty sure the CIA operates the drone program and they do lots of killing, but they have always denied that they "TORTURED" anyone. I think the chickens are coming home to roost. I think they should all buy hats or they're gonna have the hairy end covered in chicken crap. That'd be those six former directors of which you refer.

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