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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    My enemies are not having their heads chopped off on video, or having their corpses dragged through the streets.

    If one civilian or allied life can be saved by denying my enemies some sleep, then thats success
    Bollocks. "If one teenager is saved... If one murder is prevented... If one fatality is avoided...", it's a cheap cop-out. We're talking about torture and you don't get to move the goal-posts with crapola like, "...denying my enemies some sleep". Those scum who behead innocents, drag corpses through the streets and torture prisoners deserve the worst fate karma can arrange for them and you want to crawl into their gutter and share their karma.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Bollocks. "If one teenager is saved... If one murder is prevented... If one fatality is avoided...", it's a cheap cop-out. We're talking about torture and you don't get to move the goal-posts with crapola like, "...denying my enemies some sleep". Those scum who behead innocents, drag corpses through the streets and torture prisoners deserve the worst fate karma can arrange for them and you want to crawl into their gutter and share their karma.
    Thata what the report read. You saw torture in a headline and went off screaming "TORTURERS!!! Get em!!" Mission accomplished by the media i guess.

    But the reality is one guy was waterboarded and he deserved it.

    And why cant you say if one life is saved? Thats exactly what happened.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Continuing doing the same actions and sweeping it under the rug endangers more lives. It was the immoral activity instigated under Cheney/Bush that has put American lives at risk.....not releasing the report that details their actions.
    The enhanced interrogations were under special circumstances, mostly occurring right after roughly 3000 Americans were brutally murdered and the terrorists were threatening to brutally murder thousands more.
    The waterboarding, etc of terrorists was entirely legal. And democrats like Senator Dianne Feinstein were briefed and quite okay with it. At the time their attitude was: "Whatever it takes". The democrats also pushed the WMDs in Iraq narrative long before Bush and Cheney assumed office. The democrats were all in and did not want to miss out on any of the political credit for the fall of Saddam Hussein. It was only after it became clear that the insurgency that followed the take down of the Saddam regime was not going to go away quickly and the war was going to drag on longer that they suddenly pushed the scenario that they were against the war and the wmd narrative all along.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Any Democrats or Republicans complicit in torture policies should be thrown out like the anti-American bums they are.
    So they should just blow them to bits with predator drones, huh?

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I agree.

    If some of the people in the G.W. Bush mis-administration hadn't descended into barbarity as part of their response to 9/11 we wouldn't be having this conversation.

    When any country (Including the USA.) violates international agreements that it has signed and tortures people it has crossed a red line.

    And it shouldn't be surprised when other nations condemn its actions.
    International agreements? The only international agreement that applies to torture is the Geneva Conventions. The protections against torture in the Geneva Conventions do not apply to terrorists. They do not apply to any combatants who are not fighting under the flag of any nation.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Then America needs to STFU about being morally superior, being exceptional, or being the 'shining city on a hill'.
    Is it a requirement for politically correct liberals to be self hating Americans?

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I haven't commented on the report, only the known use of torture authorized by the Bush Administration. You defend that, you lose the 'morals and values' argument.
    Listening to long Obama speeches is considered torture by many of us. One of the torture methods mentioned in the report that was just released is "loud rock music". And waterboarding is used against our on US Navy Seals as part of their training. I am okay with the enhanced interrogations of murderous terrorists. I have no sympathy or compassion whatsoever for bloody murderous terrorists. Are you more repulsed by the enhanced interrorgations then you are by the murder of 3000 innocent Americans?

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    So they should just blow them to bits with predator drones, huh?
    I don't support the drone program for many reasons. First and foremost is the collateral damage. For every one drone target, dozens of innocents seem to die.

    41 men targeted but 1,147 people killed: US drone strikes

    A new analysis of the data available to the public about drone strikes, conducted by the human-rights group Reprieve, indicates that even when operators target specific individuals – the most focused effort of what Barack Obama calls “targeted killing” – they kill vastly more people than their targets, often needing to strike multiple times. Attempts to kill 41 men resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1,147 people, as of 24 November.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, that's exactly what they are doing. What people on the Right should do.....is swamp the MS Media, and I do mean swamp them with calls telling them to be accurate in their reporting or suffer the consequences.

    This is not a Senate Committee Report......It is the One Sided Democrat Report. So that's what it should be reported as. The one sided Senate Intel Report from the Democrats.

    The report by the Democrats. The Demos investigation. Reported as, this is how the Demos do things. Their usual.

    Also we now have been shown by the Left they would do whatever it takes to cause harm to the country, when they have lost power and now have to take the backseat. That they would rather have Americans face more Risks of Harm and Danger all due to their politics from their party.

    Lets not forget that point when showing the MS Media where they actually are on the food chain.
    One example of that is their continued bald faced lie suggesting that the enhanced interrogations did not garner any actionable intelligence.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by twixie1 View Post
    Well for a start..Russia told you not to interfere in the horrors that were going on in Syria..

    Russia warned it could potentially retaliate if U.S. or Arab airstrikes go beyond targeting Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, and instead bomb any Syrian regime targets.

    That seemed like poopy pants time for the USA..
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    No...just for our moronic president.

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