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Thread: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    only NOT the ones conducting torture and those who authorized/directed it
    the phrase 'American exceptionalism' was co-opted by the neocons to justify engaging our nation in immoral acts
    So are you trying to say that BO wasn't out running around using the same term? That those overseas still were hearing the same ole same ole, Right?

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    So are you trying to say that BO wasn't out running around using the same term? That those overseas still were hearing the same ole same ole, Right?
    what i am actually saying is thank you for acknowledging there was no conspiracy/scandal between gruber and the white house
    and it is the neocons bandying about with the 'American exceptionalism' phrase to justify the moral wrongdoing/torture committed in the name of our country
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    what i am actually saying is thank you for acknowledging there was no conspiracy/scandal between gruber and the white house
    and it is the neocons bandying about with the 'American exceptionalism' phrase to justify the moral wrongdoing/torture committed in the name of our country
    Yeah and I think you were given an answer in that thread. Although, they were talking about what was facts, which Gruber agreed upon due to him making the admissions.

    But really Gruber has nothing to do with the Torture report. Certainly not about exceptionalism either. Just sayin.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    I haven't got time to read the entire thread, but nowhere do I see any ties to American exceptionalism;
    either the classic sense before WWII, or modern meaning

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Well, now you are speaking about all the Democrats that were in the Intelligence Committees of both the House and the Senate. So that'd be Feinstein herself, and I don't buy for a minute her claim that 'she didn't know'. She was briefed extensively and repeatedly in these committee hearings by the CIA.

    So say hello to your Democratic leadership, and you can lump them right in with Bush / Cheney on this count.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Although it goes against my better judgement due to humanitarian reasons..I think your politicians should have just kept shtum..what purpose will it serve now?

    It will only serve to inflame an already inflammatory situation..

    You must be really looking forward to the compensation claims..

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by twixie1 View Post
    Although it goes against my better judgement due to humanitarian reasons..I think your politicians should have just kept shtum..what purpose will it serve now?

    It will only serve to inflame an already inflammatory situation..

    You must be really looking forward to the compensation claims.
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    What power on this planet is going to force the U.S. government to pay compensation to anyone for anything?

    Fill us in.


    I don't believe that it will ever happen.


    I'm not saying that it might not be deserved in a few cases. I'm just saying that it's not going to happen.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What power on this planet is going to force the U.S. government to pay compensation to anyone for anything?

    Fill us in.


    I don't believe that it will ever happen.


    I'm not saying that it might not be deserved in a few cases. I'm just saying that it's not going to happen.
    Come off it..America is going to pay for every little toenail pulled out..unless they have some real good evidence that those people they tortured were ''terrorists!''

    Torture is not one of the crimes covered by the statute directly, but it may be arguable that the individual acts committed by CIA agents amounted to crimes against humanity as part of a widespread or systematic attack against a civilian population on the basis that the torture was part of a policy committed against a great number of victims or in a systematic way) and subject to the court’s jurisdiction.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by twixie1 View Post
    Come off it..America is going to pay for every little toenail pulled out..unless they have some real good evidence that those people they tortured were ''terrorists!''

    Torture is not one of the crimes covered by the statute directly, but it may be arguable that the individual acts committed by CIA agents amounted to crimes against humanity as part of a widespread or systematic attack against a civilian population on the basis that the torture was part of a policy committed against a great number of victims or in a systematic way) and subject to the courtís jurisdiction
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    What you have said here is 100% total BS because there is no power on this planet that can force the USA to do anything that it doesn't want to do.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What you have said here is 100% total BS because there is no power on this planet that can force the USA to do anything that it doesn't want to do.
    The USA REDEFINED what "torture" was, in order to be able to pontificate that they did not "torture" people...

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