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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Waterboarding and sleep deprivation is not torcher. I have endured it - it is not torcher. There are no long lasting effects, just short term discomfort to break down resistance to questioning.

    Maybe you will change your mind when an attack happens that effects your own family and friends. I would hope you would.
    Torture, not torcher.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Waterboarding and sleep deprivation is not torcher. I have endured it - it is not torcher. There are no long lasting effects, just short term discomfort to break down resistance to questioning.

    Maybe you will change your mind when an attack happens that effects your own family and friends. I would hope you would.
    That's pretty much it. I've seen some pretty bad "purple nurple's" back in the day and we never called that torture. Given the choice of guys walking into the room with a gallon of water and a dish towel or coming in with a car battery and jumper cables I'll take the water every time.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Torture, not torcher.
    Auto correct, inaccurately did this. Thank you for pointing it out. I will watch it more closely.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    It absolutely should. We should have every right to know what our government is doing.


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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    That's pretty much it. I've seen some pretty bad "purple nurple's" back in the day and we never called that torture. Given the choice of guys walking into the room with a gallon of water and a dish towel or coming in with a car battery and jumper cables I'll take the water every time.
    Exactly. We also had to go through the batteries and cable treatment. THAT... was torture, if done long enough, because it could and would cause long lasting harm. I've also had metal slivers under my toenails and fingernails, as well as my arms bound and hung up in the air by the rope - my right arm popped out of its socket and they had to put my in the hospital for a week to recover (THAT was damn sure torture). Plus, being exposed to tear gas in an enclosed room, having my feet submerged in ice water for hours and a bunch of other techniques that Russia, China, Iran and many other countries STILL use.

    Waterboarding, sleep deprivation, making a person stand and not allowing them to sit or lay down IS NOT TORTURE.

    Edit: Having to listen to Diane Feinstein and many other Democrat Senators about this... IS TORTURE.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    I've been waterboarded and a few other interrogation techniques, as were all guys that would be potentially put in that position to understand what it felt like and how to not let it break you. Now... it was not fun, but it was not torcher either.

    This is nothing but a political attack on the GOP and BW Bush. Nothing more than that.

    And by doing so, the Democrats in the Senate are putting our military, our civilians overseas, and even civilians here at home in grave danger.

    This is as close to treason as I have seen in my lifetime done by any politician in any political party. If they think this will garner them power or prestige, they are mistaken. If they think this will garner support from the military, they are grossly mistaken. If they think that this will help them politically at home, they are mentally unbalanced. And, if they think this will help us overseas in our war against terrorism and provide protection from further attacks... well...

    IF this report is released, charges should be brought against those that do. Just like they are wanting to do to Edward Snowden. Because this is worse. These Senators took an oath to protect and defend, not attack and endanger.

    Mornin' Beaudreaux. Yeah and being put in a locker buried in the ground. Slapped around, and put in chokeholds for interrogation. Interrogator.<<<<< Okay soldier, you have parents Right. What your mother's name. Answer, Mom. Whats your fathers name. Answer, dad. Interrogator,

    Now Let try that again soldier. Name.....Answer, Leroy Brown. What is your mission. Answer, Baddest Man in the Whole damn town. Interrogator Nightey nite. Sleep.....whats that?



    Lets not forget an attack on our Intel People. Which we have seen BO throw them under the bus since Libya and Benghazi.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' CJ. You don't think after this runs a new cycle that more attacks and kidnapping of Americans, will take place?

    What about other Intel agencies that work with us? Or even their Law Enforcement?
    I don't suspect anything like that will be revealed in the report. And really, can Americans in the world, particularly in unstable countries such as in the Middle East, be any more in danger of attacks and kidnappings than they are right now? If I was an American, I'd do precious little in the way of traveling outside of America's borders and here in Canada and perhaps the Caribbean.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Torture, not torcher.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if the preliminary reports of this study are correct, our nation, our citizens, have good reason to be ashamed of the abhorrent actions undertaken in our name
    we should disclose the findings publicly with our sincerest apologies and a promise not to allow it to recur

    kerry is concerned about the timing of the release. when exactly is the timing going to be better than now?
    there was a time when kerry was the one protesting that our nation was not transparent about its wrongful activities in vietnam. now that he is one of those in power, his reasoning has flipped 180 degrees to oppose disclosure

    and notice how this has become a left/right demo/GOP issue of conflict. those who only recently were chiding Obama for not being transparent are now chaffing that he is supportive of disclosing this report about our criminal wrongdoing

    sometimes, we get it right. engaging in torture was not one of them. acknowledging such wrongdoing is
    Not all of us on the right disagree or are hamstrung by politics when forming opinions about right and wrong.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't suspect anything like that will be revealed in the report. And really, can Americans in the world, particularly in unstable countries such as in the Middle East, but any more in danger of attacks and kidnappings than they are right now? If I was an American, I'd do precious little in the way of traveling outside of America's borders and here in Canada and perhaps the Caribbean.

    Especially if they are not prepared to do what will be necessary. When recognizing an attack. According to what I hear there are sympathies for ISIS in Trinidad and Tobago now.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...orist-act.html

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