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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    So what do you think the impact of that would be, were it in the report?
    Not significant, because it isn't a secret and it is already well known throughout the world. It is the people of the USA who are most in the dark (or in denial) about our government's activities.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Not necessarily, it depends on whether the report was written in good faith or not. Right now there is no reason to doubt the good faith and honest effort of the writers. Them belonging to one political party or another does not matter for this determination.
    I believe there may be some reasons to doubt the good faith and honest effort of the writers.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    So you'd be perfectly fine with American soldiers being treated the same exact way?
    They are currently treated worse when captured by terrorists. So...

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post


    Gul Rahman, a suspected extremist, got his first taste of enhanced interrogation in late 2002 with two days of sleep deprivation, total darkness, isolation and "rough treatment." Rahman was then shackled to a wall in his cell, forced to rest on a bare concrete floor in only a sweatshirt. The next day he was dead. A CIA review and autopsy found he died of hypothermia.

    Justice Department investigations into that and another death of a CIA detainee resulted in no charges....snip~

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    OK. So that's one. Out of how many? I'm still betting on a very small percentage, and this is the real world; the rough and tumble world of international spooks, international aggression and extremist groups who behead people.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    I do not think they can be any more angered....
    I have changed my mind about this. The people need to know what happened. You are right about our enemies being more angered.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    They are currently treated worse when captured by terrorists. So...
    You. Did. Not. Answer. My. Question.

    Your torture excusers are predictable as hell. Y'all talk a big game, saying it's not a big deal at all (pffftttt... waterboarding is torture for pussies!111!!) but not a one of you will admit that you think it would be okay with American soldiers being treated in the same manner. C'mon, Sabanist... be the first!
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Indeed. The Geneva conventions have a clear gap in them, as it didn't foresee that type of warfare at the time that it was drafted and agreed to. And the UN, and international agreements haven't kept up nor even started to catch up. These Unlawful combatant/Terrorist fall through the cracks.

    This is what drove the Bush administration to create Gitmo, and hold them there. This is also why Obama couldn't close Gitmo when and how it wanted to.

    Gitmo is an imperfect solution for an imperfect world for Unlawful combatant/Terrorist that aren't covered in any other way.
    The ONLY reason Gitmo hasn't been closed was because the GOP-led House refused to fund the closure. That's the ONLY reason.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    If releasing these reports endangers American lives then the answer is no.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    The ONLY reason Gitmo hasn't been closed was because the GOP-led House refused to fund the closure. That's the ONLY reason.

    Ah if it was only that simple my left wing friend
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    You. Did. Not. Answer. My. Question.

    Your torture excusers are predictable as hell. Y'all talk a big game, saying it's not a big deal at all (pffftttt... waterboarding is torture for pussies!111!!) but not a one of you will admit that you think it would be okay with American soldiers being treated in the same manner. C'mon, Sabanist... be the first!
    Ok very well, im not ok with any of it. However if the terrorists employed tactics we used rather than the ones they currently use then yea, im good
    With it.

    Now you, would you rather see more attacks on americans rather than the waterboarding if ksm?

    Be the first!!

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