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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    In the days after the attacks of 9-11, you would be hard-pressed to find very many citizens of this country who didn't want to use every means necessary to stop further attacks and destroy the enemy...no matter what party or political ideology they held.
    That would be the "patriots" that GWB was referring to yesterday? Oh wait, he was talking about the torturers...
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' WCH. Did you know Clapper signed off on this? Feinstein and the Demos. are using that as one excuse. Bush Junior sounded off on this. About time he step out and start taking it to BO peep and the Democrats.




    The report appears to be “way off-base,” Bush said in an interview Dec. 7 on CNN’s “State of the Union.” .....

    We’re fortunate to have men and women who work hard at the CIA serving on our behalf,” Bush said. “These are patriots. And whatever the report says, if it diminishes their contributions to our country, it is way off base.” Others who are part of the campaign include Bush’s former CIA directors George Tenet and Michael Hayden.

    Opponents of releasing the report also have created a website, CIASavedLives.com, where they plan to publish declassified documents, opinion pieces and media reports to rebut the Senate Democrats’ report. The site is being curated by William Harlow, Tenet’s former spokesman at the CIA.

    Republicans and former Bush administration officials who ran the program condemned the report in advance as a biased attempt to rewrite history. They say the interrogations produced significant intelligence that helped capture terrorists and protect the country. “Information from the detainees was absolutely crucial to us understanding al-Qaeda and helping disturb, disrupt, dismantle and, in many cases, destroy al-Qaeda networks,” said Charles Allen, who managed the intelligence community’s collection programs from 1998 to 2005. “It’s hard for people in 2014 to understand how the world fell in on top of the” CIA after the 2001 attacks, said Allen, a principal with the Chertoff Group, a risk-management advisory firm. “There was no wide-scale abuse of any of the interrogation authorities, and CIA officers simply do not lie to the Congress.” .....snip~

    CIA Torture Report Set for Senate Release Over Bush Objections - Bloomberg Politics
    No one had a problem with the WOT or torture until it became a political liability or could be seen as a lever for someone's agenda.

    This goes back to my original contention that all of this was nothing more than an elitist power grab.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    That would be the "patriots" that GWB was referring to yesterday? Oh wait, he was talking about the torturers...
    Do you really believe anything of this will stop "advanced interrogation techniques" used by the PTBs?

    Of course it won't...never has.

    If you want to get a job done, don't rely on a naive pacifist to do it.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    This is not exactly a revelation.

    The idea that extremists will suddenly be galvanized by a no doubt heavily redacted summary of a bureaucratic report confirming facts that everyone already knows is beyond ridiculous.
    Mornin' Serenity. Did you know about the use of threats with Children? What do you think it will cause those who sided with and helped to capture some of these people? What about those who are Intel now and working out in the field not knowing if they have just been compromised?

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    No one had a problem with the WOT or torture until it became a political liability or could be seen as a lever for someone's agenda.

    This goes back to my original contention that all of this was nothing more than an elitist power grab.

    Some of this is about the Demos saving face with BO peep who has a collapsed Presidency.....while going back to their Mantra of Buuuuuuush!

    Feinstein knows she is losing that Chair.....and the Repub taking it should let the Demos know to pick some new members as none.....that's none now, will be returning to this committee.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Some of this is about the Demos saving face with BO peep who has a collapsed Presidency.....while going back to their Mantra of Buuuuuuush!

    Feinstein knows she is losing that Chair.....and the Repub taking it should let the Demos know to pick some new members as none.....that's none now, will be returning to this committee.
    Politics as usual.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Politics as usual.
    Correction.....Democrat Politics. Where Intentions matter more than results.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Correction.....Democrat Politics. Where Intentions matter more than results.
    It's such white-washed window dressing though. None of these people care about us.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Flashback:

    When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool!!!

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    I don't see the benefit of scratching this scab, yet once again, and making it bleed in public, yet once again, especially so if it places our embassies and our overseas personnel and tourists in any sort of risk of increased terrorist activities.

    Complaints about various House investigative committees foolishly spending public monies have been all over this board. This one sided reports that the Democrats insist on spent $40M. Do the same people condemn this foolish expenditure of public monies? So spending public monies in pursuit of one sided political advantage is hardly as one sided as many want everyone to believe.

    One thing that seems to be an odd coincidence is that Gruber is testifying before congress today probably about his comments that have recently gone viral on the Internet. No idea if it's connected or not, but the timing of the release of this torture report does seem almost planned, somehow. Of is there yet another news Obama scandal yet waiting in the wings?
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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