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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Nice.....Let Feinstein and those Democrats on the Committee, start to swet. Any Americans killed or attacked because of this. It will be devastating to them come 2016.


    US prepares for security risks from torture report.....


    American embassies, military units and other U.S. interests are preparing for possible security threats related to the release of a report on the CIA's harsh interrogation techniques at secret overseas facilities after the 9/11 terror attacks.

    "There are some indications that the release of the report could lead to a greater risk that is posed to U.S. facilities and individuals all around the world," White House spokesman Josh Earnest said Monday. "The administration has taken the prudent steps to ensure that the proper security precautions are in place at U.S. facilities around the globe."

    Army Col. Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman, said "there is certainly the possibility that the release of this report could cause unrest" and therefore combatant commands have been directed to take protective measures.....snip~

    US prepares for security risks from torture report


    Oh yeah, BO and team do have concerns.....huh?

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Jog. Maybe, the Demos talking to some live witnesses might help too.
    Hi there. I would have hoped that they had done that for the report.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    This post lacks substance.

    I know first hand that just because you're fighting monsters doesn't mean you have to become one. You can not quantify any kind of benefit we've received from torture. It's against basic human rights and international law, so those who are responsible should be held responsible.

    It's that simple. If you torture a prisoner and deny him a trial, don't act surprised when everyone thinks you're an asshole. Americans have spoken and they don't want torture done in their name. If you'd like the program to be restarted write your congressman.
    Your post lacks credibility. Perhaps you could strive for some in the future.

    But thanks for your opinion. Perhaps you can work on accuracy in your posts, a splash of credibility might be refreshing.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    I did not authorize the torture and I think those that did should be held accountable. I believe in law and democracy. You only believe in the GOP apparently.
    In the days after the attacks of 9-11, you would be hard-pressed to find very many citizens of this country who didn't want to use every means necessary to stop further attacks and destroy the enemy...no matter what party or political ideology they held.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Hi there. I would have hoped that they had done that for the report.
    They didn't. But they were going to name the CIA Ops. There is no reason to release this report now. They could release it in another decade. We still have a War going on with the Terrorists. These were AQ terrorists. They are still the enemy.

    They are already engaged in activities wherein they are going after more Americans and our Allies.....they don't need to know how much more concerned we are. This will just feed them more propaganda.

    Take a look at what I just put up.....Hayden has been really playing defense with the matter. He should go after Feinstein directly.....and talk about her time on that chair and what she has dealt with long before Bush and Cheney came along.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    The outrage will not be about the actions of the Dems, who are merely reporting the news; it will be about the actions of the Cons, who made the news.

    Feel free to assign the the blame where it belongs. It ain't with the messenger.

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    Actually Nancy Pelosie and the House Democrats were well briefed by the CIA

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    In the days after the attacks of 9-11, you would be hard-pressed to find very many citizens of this country who didn't want to use every means necessary to stop further attacks and destroy the enemy...no matter what party or political ideology they held.
    Mornin' WCH. Did you know Clapper signed off on this? Feinstein and the Demos. are using that as one excuse. Bush Junior sounded off on this. About time he step out and start taking it to BO peep and the Democrats.




    The report appears to be “way off-base,” Bush said in an interview Dec. 7 on CNN’s “State of the Union.” .....

    We’re fortunate to have men and women who work hard at the CIA serving on our behalf,” Bush said. “These are patriots. And whatever the report says, if it diminishes their contributions to our country, it is way off base.” Others who are part of the campaign include Bush’s former CIA directors George Tenet and Michael Hayden.

    Opponents of releasing the report also have created a website, CIASavedLives.com, where they plan to publish declassified documents, opinion pieces and media reports to rebut the Senate Democrats’ report. The site is being curated by William Harlow, Tenet’s former spokesman at the CIA.

    Republicans and former Bush administration officials who ran the program condemned the report in advance as a biased attempt to rewrite history. They say the interrogations produced significant intelligence that helped capture terrorists and protect the country. “Information from the detainees was absolutely crucial to us understanding al-Qaeda and helping disturb, disrupt, dismantle and, in many cases, destroy al-Qaeda networks,” said Charles Allen, who managed the intelligence community’s collection programs from 1998 to 2005. “It’s hard for people in 2014 to understand how the world fell in on top of the” CIA after the 2001 attacks, said Allen, a principal with the Chertoff Group, a risk-management advisory firm. “There was no wide-scale abuse of any of the interrogation authorities, and CIA officers simply do not lie to the Congress.” .....snip~

    CIA Torture Report Set for Senate Release Over Bush Objections - Bloomberg Politics

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    They didn't. But they were going to name the CIA Ops. There is no reason to release this report now. They could release it in another decade. We still have a War going on with the Terrorists. These were AQ terrorists. They are still the enemy.

    They are already engaged in activities wherein they are going after more Americans and our Allies.....they don't need to know how much more concerned we are. This will just feed them more propaganda.

    Take a look at what I just put up.....Hayden has been really playing defense with the matter. He should go after Feinstein directly.....and talk about her time on that chair and what she has dealt with long before Bush and Cheney came along.
    While I do not think that the names of the people involved need be public, I do think it would be good to know exactly what happened. If, you see, the only the methods used were the ones okayed by the legal counsel, then there is no real problem. I read those documents and cannot see the procedures to be torture except. This should be demonstrated and explained.

    If there was systematic infringement, then we have a problem and must clear it up. We cannot have agencies and Forces doing things that are forbidden by the political leadership. We also can not tolerate suspicion to linger that the leadership allowed torture to be used against the law. To allow this is highly destructive and if left standing as a precedent endangers us as citizens.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    This is not exactly a revelation.

    The idea that extremists will suddenly be galvanized by a no doubt heavily redacted summary of a bureaucratic report confirming facts that everyone already knows is beyond ridiculous.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    While I do not think that the names of the people involved need be public, I do think it would be good to know exactly what happened. If, you see, the only the methods used were the ones okayed by the legal counsel, then there is no real problem. I read those documents and cannot see the procedures to be torture except. This should be demonstrated and explained.

    If there was systematic infringement, then we have a problem and must clear it up. We cannot have agencies and Forces doing things that are forbidden by the political leadership. We also can not tolerate suspicion to linger that the leadership allowed torture to be used against the law. To allow this is highly destructive and if left standing as a precedent endangers us as citizens.


    This is from the Philippines, an Ally. Already it has begun and the report isn't out. Yet someone has been talking from Team BO.....huh? This will cost us contacts and moles, will jeopardize our allies who are conducting business. All while BO and the Demos want to talk about our values. Note how the terminology is changed for those overseas. The Term Terrorists, is not and will not be used. Overseas they will use the term Militants. Not unlawful combatants even.


    CIA sexual threats, 'torture' in senate report.....


    The Senate Intelligence Committee prepared to release a report on the CIA's anti-terrorism tactics on Tuesday and U.S. officials moved to shore up security at American facilities around the world as a precaution. The report will include graphic details about sexual threats and other harsh interrogation techniques the CIA meted out to captured militants in the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States, sources familiar with the document said on Monday.

    The report, which Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein said would be released on Tuesday, describes how al Qaeda operative Abdel Rahman al Nashiri, suspected mastermind of the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, was threatened with a buzzing power drill, the sources said. The drill was never actually used on him. It documents how at least one detainee was sexually threatened with a broomstick, the sources said.

    "We are concerned that this release could endanger the lives of Americans overseas, jeopardize U.S. relations with foreign partners, potentially incite violence, create political problems for our allies, and be used as a recruitment tool for our enemies," Senators Marco Rubio and Jim Risch said in a statement on Monday.....snip~

    CIA sexual threats, 'torture' in senate report - 9News


    OMG.....



    Terrorists were threatened and even with a broomstick. One can see how the tickle feather and the baby talk could have been used as psychological cruelty.
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