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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Diane Feinstein and the Democrats are releasing the Torture Report this week, they are saying. They meaning the Demos, Feinstein, and the MS Media.

    Foreign governments and U.S. intelligence agencies are predicting that the release of a Senate report examining the use of torture by the CIA will cause "violence and deaths" abroad. BO is backing the release of this report. Since he came out and stated we tortured some folks. Then other countries Intel services stated this will cause more violence and death to take place. This was all reported back to BO. Yet he and the Democrats are all for it.

    The Republicans are disputing this report and will come out with their own report. Feinstein said she would go ahead with the release. Even after Kerry asked her to hold off with the timing.

    What say ye?
    "Torture Report"?

    Did we do something more than waterboarding and stress positions?

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    "Torture Report"?

    Did we do something more than waterboarding and stress positions?
    Mornin Luther. Yeah, she mentioned something about Sleep deprivation and putting them into little spaces. Funny how none of the Democrats talk with any of those involved in the program. Yet Feinstein thinks this is the greatest work of oversight ever done by the Senate.


    "First of all, the CIA workforce will feel as if it has been tried and convicted in absentia since the Senate Democrats and their staff didn't talk to anyone actively involved in the program. Second, this will be used by our enemies to motivate people to attack Americans and American facilities overseas," said Hayden.

    The report, which has been delayed numerous times and has reportedly cost $40 million to produce over the course of five years is considered by Feinstein to be "one of the most significant oversight efforts in the history of the United States Senate, and by far the most important oversight activity ever conducted by this committee." ....snip~

    Well.....by her and her Committee of Democrats. That is.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin Luther. Yeah, she mentioned something about Sleep deprivation and putting them into little spaces. Funny how none of the Democrats talk with any of those involved in the program. Yet Feinstein thinks this is the greatest work of oversight ever done by the Senate.


    "First of all, the CIA workforce will feel as if it has been tried and convicted in absentia since the Senate Democrats and their staff didn't talk to anyone actively involved in the program. Second, this will be used by our enemies to motivate people to attack Americans and American facilities overseas," said Hayden.

    The report, which has been delayed numerous times and has reportedly cost $40 million to produce over the course of five years is considered by Feinstein to be "one of the most significant oversight efforts in the history of the United States Senate, and by far the most important oversight activity ever conducted by this committee." ....snip~

    Well.....by her and her Committee of Democrats. That is.
    The idea that it will encourage violence by our enemies is ridiculous. Our enemies are head choppers. They thing "water board" is an amusement park ride.

    I'm sick and tired of this "torture" talk. The information has been out there for years and the scope of what was done was piddling. This report is nothing more than the act of a desperate woman to create some kind of relevance for her party that just got thrashed in the elections.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    The idea that it will encourage violence by our enemies is ridiculous. Our enemies are head choppers. They thing "water board" is an amusement park ride.

    I'm sick and tired of this "torture" talk. The information has been out there for years and the scope of what was done was piddling. This report is nothing more than the act of a desperate woman to create some kind of relevance for her party that just got thrashed in the elections.
    Greetings, Lutherf.

    : ... Besides, if sleep deprivation is torture, my animals torture me regularly since they think it's okay to wake me up to investigate a noise they heard outside, which was probably just a coon or a mouse running from one place to another! Sheesh!

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    An early Christmas gift for ISIS recruiters.
    I thought our actions in the Middle East weren't creating more terrorists.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good morning MMC,

    Personally, I'm all for as much transparency in government as possible. But let's leave no doubt that this is a last gasp at relevance for Dianne Feinstein and Senate Democrats before they lose their positions of power in less than a month.

    Republicans and American security personnel have been tarred by Democrats for years as it relates to "torture" - it is condemnation by insinuation. Let the Democrats release their report, provided no individual, either American or friendly international is specifically named, and let the Republicans also release their report and their problems with the Democrat's findings. Nothing in such reports will be overly surprising and all the hand wringing about potential for harm is just ass covering defense of those who love to live in the dark.

    America's enemies will be little affected and America's friends even less so. There might be some political posturing, but what's new about that? Get it out, get it discussed, and then get back to the important issues of the day.

    Mornin' CJ. You don't think after this runs a new cycle that more attacks and kidnapping of Americans, will take place?

    What about other Intel agencies that work with us? Or even their Law Enforcement?

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    BTW, for those claiming this is some Democratic ploy, the report was commissioned well before the midterms.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    BTW, for those claiming this is some Democratic ploy, the report was commissioned well before the midterms.
    What does that have to do with the Demos having a Report.....with no sign on with the Republicans and why the Republicans are releasing their own report?

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    What does that have to do with the Demos having a Report.....with no sign on with the Republicans and why the Republicans are releasing their own report?
    I don't see why that's relevant.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    if the preliminary reports of this study are correct, our nation, our citizens, have good reason to be ashamed of the abhorrent actions undertaken in our name
    we should disclose the findings publicly with our sincerest apologies and a promise not to allow it to recur

    kerry is concerned about the timing of the release. when exactly is the timing going to be better than now?
    there was a time when kerry was the one protesting that our nation was not transparent about its wrongful activities in vietnam. now that he is one of those in power, his reasoning has flipped 180 degrees to oppose disclosure

    and notice how this has become a left/right demo/GOP issue of conflict. those who only recently were chiding Obama for not being transparent are now chaffing that he is supportive of disclosing this report about our criminal wrongdoing

    sometimes, we get it right. engaging in torture was not one of them. acknowledging such wrongdoing is
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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