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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    More of a threat than Al Qaeda?
    More of a threat than Iran?
    More of a threat than the Taliban?
    I'm not trying to minimize ISIS' brutality, but in this particular neck of the woods, they blend in with the rest of the trees.
    "Threat" defined as "Ability Plus Intent", I would say:

    more of a threat than Iran (who has greater ability, but less intent)
    more of a threat than the Taliban (narrow intent, less ability)
    less (possibly) of a threat than Al Qaeda (equal intent, ability is the question)

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    So what do you think the impact of that would be, were it in the report?
    No impact.
    It's not as if this info. is a secret.
    I think gov't agencies just oppose any releases of information.
    Possibly for legitimate reasons, but mostly to avoid embarrassment.
    No matter how cynical I become toward politicians, it's never enough.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yes there has.....but how many have been from other countries? How many Westerners?
    Oh right..as long as it is not Westerners..it doesn't concern you..even though you must realise that it is a murderous regime.that respects no-one..

    Same as China..

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    So many bad actors, so little time, who should we attack?
    Damned if we do, damned if we don't.
    My next vacation destination will not be in the ME.


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    no sense in helping out their economies; so they can keep doing, what it is they do.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Diane Feinstein and the Democrats are releasing the Torture Report this week, they are saying. They meaning the Demos, Feinstein, and the MS Media.

    Foreign governments and U.S. intelligence agencies are predicting that the release of a Senate report examining the use of torture by the CIA will cause "violence and deaths" abroad. BO is backing the release of this report. Since he came out and stated we tortured some folks. Then other countries Intel services stated this will cause more violence and death to take place. This was all reported back to BO. Yet he and the Democrats are all for it.

    The Republicans are disputing this report and will come out with their own report. Feinstein said she would go ahead with the release. Even after Kerry asked her to hold off with the timing.

    What say ye?
    There was an investigation. No charges were filed against anyone. Release the report and let the American people decide.

    We can't let our government become like the enemy we fear. And, perhaps, some charges will be filed.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by twixie1 View Post
    Oh right..as long as it is not Westerners..it doesn't concern you..even though you must realise that it is a murderous regime.that respects no-one..

    Same as China..

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    I didn't say it wasn't happening nor that it wasn't a concern.....I meant for all that great coverage.

    Also, I am sure you will discover I have no sympathy for the Saud.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    "Threat" defined as "Ability Plus Intent", I would say:

    more of a threat than Iran (who has greater ability, but less intent)
    I remember when Iran's Ahmadinejad was considered the new Hitler.
    Now, Iran is helping against ISIS.

    more of a threat than the Taliban (narrow intent, less ability)
    True for now.
    But if the bad guys ahead of them in line, are beaten down, the Taliban will be targeted again.

    less (possibly) of a threat than Al Qaeda (equal intent, ability is the question)
    But as we focus on ISIS, Al Qaeda will be said to have reconstituted and, therefore, will resume being the current bad guy du jour in the ME.

    My point is, this ME snakepit will always produce a new bad guy which is a recipe for endless war.
    Not worth it IMHO.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post

    no sense in helping out their economies; so they can keep doing, what it is they do.
    There are no terrorists on Maui.....although those sea turtles look a little suspicious.
    No matter how cynical I become toward politicians, it's never enough.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    An early Christmas gift for ISIS recruiters.
    There is probably a lot of truth there.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    There are no terrorists on Maui.....although those sea turtles look a little suspicious.
    Whatever you do.....don't get surrounded by the Clownfish. Just sayin.

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