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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Did I read that $40 million dollars was spent on this investigation? The Dems may not have spoken to anyone involved, but someone did.

    Let's read it to see where we really are. How low can you go and still think that you're the greatest? It's high time that we cleaned the CIA closet.

    Any person that spends the better part of their day torturing other people really does not need to live anymore. We don't need those guys in our country.

    Oh noes! It will make us be attacked by our sworn enemies. Like they aren't hell bent on that already.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    I agree with this.
    However, most ME villains are more than happy to sell their oil.
    Sadaam and Qaddafi were prime examples.
    How does China manage to get their oil without engaging in endless ME warfare?

    I'm not happy about this dystopian future for the ME, but for the USA's sake, I hope you are right.
    That's a good question. I don't really know how China does it. Perhaps projecting a message that you don't want to mess with them because they don't care about human rights, and perhaps also they don't have a problem selling weapons?

    I do know we have allies who depend on ME oil, and we aren't going to let that supply be dominated by lunatics. IMO, that's just never going to happen. The modern world is not going to starve while respecting the boarders of another country. Never happened in human history.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by twixie1 View Post
    Does domination..humiliation...and maybe eventual death..meted out on helpless prisoners..nude..abused..Justify the means!!
    Apparently, according to some of us, the answer is yes.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Diane Feinstein and the Democrats are releasing the Torture Report this week, they are saying. They meaning the Demos, Feinstein, and the MS Media.

    Foreign governments and U.S. intelligence agencies are predicting that the release of a Senate report examining the use of torture by the CIA will cause "violence and deaths" abroad. BO is backing the release of this report. Since he came out and stated we tortured some folks. Then other countries Intel services stated this will cause more violence and death to take place. This was all reported back to BO. Yet he and the Democrats are all for it.

    The Republicans are disputing this report and will come out with their own report. Feinstein said she would go ahead with the release. Even after Kerry asked her to hold off with the timing.

    What say ye?

    Considering some of the vile evil **** the CIA and government has done I believe that the only thing the government should be allowed to keep secret is troop movements during a time of war,not this war on terror bull****. Hopefully the democrats mean it and they are not just trying to force the republicans into backing off on defunding Obama-Amnesty or Obama-care.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by twixie1 View Post
    Does domination..humiliation...and maybe eventual death..meted out on helpless prisoners..nude..abused..Justify the means!!
    Never...I am 100% against torture and 100% for releasing the report.

    I was merely explaining the justifications in those people's minds.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    Did I read that $40 million dollars were spent on this investigation? The Dems may not have spoken to anyone involved, but someone did.

    Let's read it to see where we really are. How low can you go and still think that you're the greatest? It's high time that we cleaned the CIA closet.

    Any person that spends the better part of their day torturing other people really does not need to live anymore. We don't need those guys in our country.

    Oh noes! It will make us be attacked by our sworn enemies. Like they aren't hell bent on that already.
    If there are people who commited torture, the only place fit for them is the Hauge.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    If your actions are so cowardly that you're thrown under the bus by the world knowing about them, you deserve everything you get. Don't like people getting upset that you tortured people? Don't torture people.
    It's all about creating chaos for the new Congress.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Of course. All the above is true. However, there are exceptions where expediency is critical. I have no problem with those very rare but expedient circumstances being met with ends that justify the means.
    And that's what you think this is about? Those few times that a literal bomb was ticking and they waterboarded a deactivation code out of him? Come on.

    They use torture because they find it convenient and have zero respect for basic human rights.
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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I don't think any American can accept the use of torture.

    How can American values justify torture.
    There are Americans who justify death in the name of choice, so this false value thing you're attempting to apply to torture doesn't really hold true.

    American values are such that there are people willing to die to protect them, and to protect those who want to aspire to the same opportunities those values represent.

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    Re: Should the Report on Torture Be Released Publicly?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    There are Americans who justify death in the name of choice, so this false value thing you're attempting to apply to torture doesn't really hold true.

    American values are such that there are people willing to die to protect them, and to protect those who want to aspire to the same opportunities those values represent.
    But how pure are those values if we comiting acts of torture that dehumanise its victims?
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