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Thread: War by Media and the Triumph of Propaganda

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    Re: War by Media and the Triumph of Propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The shooting was at a kid's playground, for krissake. The original caller stated it might be a toy gun. I can't draw you a picture. The officer fired within 2 seconds of getting out of his cruiser.
    I know you have a deep seeded hatred for the police, but if you could step back and consider it from his perspective, he sees a gun being brandished about and is in fear for his life. The guy probably has a family man! And you know what, had the parents not been stupid enough to let the kid take off the orange tip, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now.

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    Re: War by Media and the Triumph of Propaganda

    I hit the wrong button. The MSM is biased, often incorrect and greatly influenced by the government and to a lesser degree by its advertisers. Broadcast media is the worse of the worst. If you hear it or see it on the air it has likely been filtered in more ways than you imagine.










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    Re: War by Media and the Triumph of Propaganda

    This OP needs this link. It is the original Bernstein article about the Church Committee Senate Investigation into covert CIA corruption of USA and World media. It has only become worse with bigger CIA budgets and more extensive domestic mission creep. The CIA has huge budgets today for this work and should give an indication of how they control the slant or narrative to control public opinion. I view the USA as having been in a Corporate/Labor War for over a Century and now the Corporate/CIA (CIA chartered to help USA CORPORATIONS overseas) side has won (Citizen United). CIA infilration has become endemic to State Dept., journalists (print, and all electronic), USAID, NED, and all major financial and banking centers to include the FED, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase and US Treasury, plus the ENERGY sector that overlaps. To me, they are the motivation force behind the NWO or World Corporate Government.

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    "Among the executives who lent their cooperation to the Agency were Williarn Paley of the Columbia Broadcasting System, Henry Luce of Tirne Inc., Arthur Hays Sulzberger of the New York Times, Barry Bingham Sr. of the LouisviIle Courier‑Journal, and James Copley of the Copley News Service. Other organizations which cooperated with the CIA include the American Broadcasting Company, the National Broadcasting Company, the Associated Press, United Press International, Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps‑Howard, Newsweek magazine, the Mutual Broadcasting System, the Miami Herald and the old Saturday Evening Post and New York Herald‑Tribune."

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    Re: War by Media and the Triumph of Propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I know you have a deep seeded hatred for the police, but if you could step back and consider it from his perspective, he sees a gun being brandished about and is in fear for his life. The guy probably has a family man! And you know what, had the parents not been stupid enough to let the kid take off the orange tip, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now.
    I think a good cop is like a good teacher and worth ten, even twenty times what they're paid. On the other hand I only remember 3 truly good teachers in my entire academic life. I'm from a rural area and we have good, not trigger happy police. The Cleveland cop is and was wrong and should be prosecuted.

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    Re: War by Media and the Triumph of Propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    This OP needs this link. It is the original Bernstein article about the Church Committee Senate Investigation into covert CIA corruption of USA and World media. It has only become worse with bigger CIA budgets and more extensive domestic mission creep. The CIA has huge budgets today for this work and should give an indication of how they control the slant or narrative to control public opinion. I view the USA as having been in a Corporate/Labor War for over a Century and now the Corporate/CIA (CIA chartered to help USA CORPORATIONS overseas) side has won (Citizen United). CIA infilration has become endemic to State Dept., journalists (print, and all electronic), USAID, NED, and all major financial and banking centers to include the FED, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase and US Treasury, plus the ENERGY sector that overlaps. To me, they are the motivation force behind the NWO or World Corporate Government.

    Carl Bernstein

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    Now, I understand that intelligence agencies need a lot of co-operation to do their jobs; it's the nature of the beast.

    This situation might give one pause to consider that the media is not being bought and sold.... the media are the buyers! They spoon feed info to agencies and the general population in accordance with their own perceptions and ideas.

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    Re: War by Media and the Triumph of Propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I think a good cop is like a good teacher and worth ten, even twenty times what they're paid. On the other hand I only remember 3 truly good teachers in my entire academic life. I'm from a rural area and we have good, not trigger happy police. The Cleveland cop is and was wrong and should be prosecuted.
    And that's my problem with a lot of people when it comes to these situations; they choose to ignore the circumstances which the event occurred and choose to only focus on the end result. Look cops have to be the ones to answer the call, and they have to be protected because mistakes will happened. Now, if it were a scenario which lined up with what you describe: A cop, already knowing it's just a 12 year old brandishing an obvious toy gun, and he just stopped his car got out and shot the kid, then yes he should be prosecuting. But that's not what happened at all.

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    Re: War by Media and the Triumph of Propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The shooting was at a kid's playground, for krissake. The original caller stated it might be a toy gun. I can't draw you a picture. The officer fired within 2 seconds of getting out of his cruiser.
    Yes, because we all know that adults never go to playgrounds.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: War by Media and the Triumph of Propaganda

    My spirits have been lifted by this thread. It is obvious that
    a large majority of Debate Politics are aware enough to know
    that the media is suspect. I expected this poll to be 50/50 and
    left vs. right and it is not the least partisan. To me that indicates
    there is some snap left in the populace. It is also indicative of
    how extreme MSM has wandered off the path of journalistic
    integrity. "Hope springs eternal."

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    Re: War by Media and the Triumph of Propaganda

    I think cnn is fair down the middle ...msnbc is more liberal but will talk negative about Obama when due.. and are definitely more educated....fox .....I don't even want to say
    I find the lack of logic in humans most disturbing...

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    Re: War by Media and the Triumph of Propaganda

    the kid did not even have the gun in his hand when the cop pulled up..i am sorry but I will not kill anyone unless I see a gun starting to point at me in there hand and dammit I will be behind the police car with cover..my son is about to become a sheriff.. he will know how to shoot and will not be a scared little b--ch.. there is no room for scared police in our country you will get killed if you make one wrong move. and the bad thing about it you wont even know you did it...fear is very deadly...by the way did you hear about the cop getting ready tro be fired from his other job...
    I find the lack of logic in humans most disturbing...

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