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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    socialism appeals to two classes of people

    losers who are mad that they aren't doing well in the current system

    and power hungry jerks who want to become richer and more powerful pandering to the first group
    Actually that second bit describes capitalism to a T.

    The first is pure propaganda.

    Socialism does not give people free anything either, it gives them FAIR opportunity.
    Capitalism appeals to greedy people that want more than they have as well, and want to screw others.

    If you grew up poor, with bad schools to go to, you never had a chance in the current system, and even if you do manage to make it out, you will be paying off your student debt until your 60.

    Capitalism makes wage slaves and allows people to be born into wealth and never work, but consume a majority of the resources. How is that fair? Its not.

    You obviously have no idea what socialism actually means. Or the full definition of a loophole for that matter.

    Try having a clue OK?
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    universal truths remain constant.
    More like universal bs

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I see now your lean is "communist"

    amused I am, that's even sillier a philosophy than socialism
    Define communism. Can you have a communist government? You realize achieving communism is literal achieving utopia? And almost certainly will not happen in our lifetime.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    Define communism. Can you have a communist government? You realize achieving communism is literal achieving utopia? And almost certainly will not happen in our lifetime.
    Don't bother. It's not worth it
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    get a new line
    or maybe you need to get a new philosophy on life

    i've never met a rich socialist in this country.....have you?

    i've met plenty of rich liberals, and conservatives

    i believe people should strive for the moon.....

    when your labor is shared by the hive for the good of all....most people lose incentive

    capitalism has a few drawbacks that i am willing to live with
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    Actually that second bit describes capitalism to a T.

    The first is pure propaganda.

    Socialism does not give people free anything either, it gives them FAIR opportunity.
    Capitalism appeals to greedy people that want more than they have as well, and want to screw others.

    If you grew up poor, with bad schools to go to, you never had a chance in the current system, and even if you do manage to make it out, you will be paying off your student debt until your 60.

    Capitalism makes wage slaves and allows people to be born into wealth and never work, but consume a majority of the resources. How is that fair? Its not.

    You obviously have no idea what socialism actually means. Or the full definition of a loophole for that matter.

    Try having a clue OK?

    impossible heh?

    1. John Paul DeJoria

    2. Ursula Burns

    3. Howard Schultz

    4. Francois Pinault

    5. Leonardo Del Vecchio

    6. Richard Desmond

    7. Oprah Winfrey

    8. Mark Zuckerberg

    9. Paula Long (one of my favorite stories)

    these are all rag to riches stories (mega riches)

    great ideas and work turned into epic fortunes

    that is what capitalism does
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    or maybe you need to get a new philosophy on life

    i've never met a rich socialist in this country.....have you?

    i've met plenty of rich liberals, and conservatives

    i believe people should strive for the moon.....

    when your labor is shared by the hive for the good of all....most people lose incentive

    capitalism has a few drawbacks that i am willing to live with
    no I have no met many wealthy socialists but why should that matter

    socialists don't suffer from the delusion that "working hard" will afford them entry to a new social class and often reject the idea that they should even exist

    ive never seen anyone actually lay out this whole "incentive" argument

    good for you i guess
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    I havent seen any suggestions for a country better than the US yet. Those freedom rankings are pretty much junk we get down graded because we actually lock up our criminals instead of letting them run the streets and we get down graded on freedom of speech for allowing protections to classified information yet countries where you can go to jail for stupid tweets are ranked higher.
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    a major factor to that rating

    Gender equality (measured by the share of seats in parliament held by women)

    a composite rating based on arbitrary factors is just silly

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Nice propaganda piece. Soooo, one picture of a fallow factory, and one picture of a few tents proves your point? Uhm.....no.
    Trying to hide millions of jobs lost?
    Trying to deny homeless millions and SNAP survivors at record levals?

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